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| George Smiley |
| quote: | Originally posted by occrider
Ummm prohibition was effective? What history book did you read this in? Why yes ... I've never even heard of speakeasys ... why prohibition was so effective it was repealed because everybody learned their lesson. :rolleyes: |
I thought it was repealed cos it was onlythe religious nutters that wanted it (religious nutters in the government too...hmmmmm...where have I seen that before?!) |
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| occrider |
| quote: | Originally posted by George Smiley
I thought it was repealed cos it was onlythe religious nutters that wanted it (religious nutters in the government too...hmmmmm...where have I seen that before?!) |
No it was instated because the temperance movement was growing in strength among groups such as the Anti-Saloon League and various women's groups who believed alcohol and saloon's were prime contributors to crime and immorality among youths. Of course, after the Volstead act (prohibition) was passed, in large cities the homicide rate went from 5.6 (per 100,000 population) in the pre-prohibition period, to nearly 10 (per 100,000 population) during prohibition, nearly a 78 percent increase. Serious crimes, such as homicides, assault, and battery, increased nearly 13 percent, while other crimes involving victims increased 9 percent. Minor crimes, such as swearing, mischief, and vagrancy, did in fact decrease due to prohibition (woohoo). The major crimes, however, such as homicides, and burglaries, increased 24 percent between 1920 and 1921. In addition, the number of federal convicts over the course of the prohibition period increased 561 percent.
Meanwhile the average age of formation of drink habits actually decreased:
Period... Males Females
1914 ..... 21.4 27.9
1920-23.. 20.6 25.8
1936-37.. 23.9 31.7
http://www.drugtext.org/library/reports/nc/nc2a.htm |
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| occrider |
By the way, the CATO institute did a well researched paper on the "success" of prohibiton, I'll only include the executive summary:
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Executive Summary
National prohibition of alcohol (1920-33)--the "noble experiment"--was undertaken to reduce crime and corruption, solve social problems, reduce the tax burden created by prisons and poorhouses, and improve health and hygiene in America. The results of that experiment clearly indicate that it was a miserable failure on all counts. The evidence affirms sound economic theory, which predicts that prohibition of mutually beneficial exchanges is doomed to failure
The lessons of Prohibition remain important today. They apply not only to the debate over the war on drugs but also to the mounting efforts to drastically reduce access to alcohol and tobacco and to such issues as censorship and bans on insider trading, abortion, and gambling.[1]
Although consumption of alcohol fell at the beginning of Prohibition, it subsequently increased. Alcohol became more dangerous to consume; crime increased and became "organized"; the court and prison systems were stretched to the breaking point; and corruption of public officials was rampant. No measurable gains were made in productivity or reduced absenteeism. Prohibition removed a significant source of tax revenue and greatly increased government spending. It led many drinkers to switch to opium, marijuana, patent medicines, cocaine, and other dangerous substances that they would have been unlikely to encounter in the absence of Prohibition. Those results are documented from a variety of sources, most of which, ironically, are the work of supporters of Prohibition--most economists and social scientists supported it. Their findings make the case against Prohibition that much stronger.[2]
http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa-157.html
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| St_Andrew |
obviously prohibiton is not the way to go.
eduacate people about everything and let them take whatever risks they want to, i am pretty sure most people would actually consider the condom one as the most reasonable one.
just something i have noticed since i came here, north america = strange view of sex (yes im generalizing but i think in most cases its true). either people screw around with pretty much everyone, or they wait till they get married. just a thought... |
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| Shakka |
| quote: | Originally posted by St_Andrew
just something i have noticed since i came here, north america = strange view of sex (yes im generalizing but i think in most cases its true). either people screw around with pretty much everyone, or they wait till they get married. just a thought... |
We embrace the Yoda philosophy..."Do, or do not. There is no try.":D |
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| Sevas Stra |
| quote: | Originally posted by St_Andrew
obviously prohibiton is not the way to go.
eduacate people about everything and let them take whatever risks they want to, i am pretty sure most people would actually consider the condom one as the most reasonable one.
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couldn't agree with you more. The point was that it's logical for the Gov't to try abstanance since the condom thing isn't working out the best possible way. |
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| George Smiley |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sevas Stra
couldn't agree with you more. The point was that it's logical for the Gov't to try abstanance since the condom thing isn't working out the best possible way. |
You just dont get it do you?! The problem is people NOT wearing condoms! Jesus Christ! |
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| Sevas Stra |
| don't you get IT?!?!? the condom thing IS people not wearing them. YOU PIECE OF WOOD. wow! |
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| NYGblue |
I always agreed with the secular approach... If you don't want to get pregnant don't have sex.. BUT if you are going to do it anyways, here is how to best prevent that from happening.
P.S. Southern Bible belt girls are the biggest in' hoes around. The difference between them and New Yorkers is the New Yorkers don't pretend like they are moral upstanding conservatives... I know this b/c I know people that go to schools in the heart of dixie and tell me the stories.
Meanwhile I go to Liberaluniversity in DC and while sexual activity is prevalent it isn't MORE so. |
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| Arbiter |
You have to understand, the government isn't about performing useful tasks, it's about advancing the malformed philosophies of cretins by the only means those philosophies could ever spread: deception and coercion.
Don't like it? Then you don't like government and you should probably be crucified for treason. |
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| occrider |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sevas Stra
couldn't agree with you more.
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Wait, I thought prohibition was a success?
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The point was that it's logical for the Gov't to try abstanance since the condom thing isn't working out the best possible way. |
You haven't provided any evidence at all to show that abstinence only education programs were any more successful than comprehensive sex education programs. Contrary to your lack of evidence, MisterOpus has provided a wealth of resources demonstrating the failures of abstinence only education. You continually fail to grasp the simple concept that abstinence only education programs emphasize that condoms do not prevent disease and pregnancy because they are "only" 99% effective. These programs emphasize abstinence as the only solution. Comprehensive sex ed programs state that abstinence is the most effective method, however, in the event of sex, condoms can be immensely effective in preventing disease and pregnancy. Hence it adopts a mutli-tiered approach towards maximizing prevention. |
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| NYGblue |
| quote: | Originally posted by occrider
Wait, I thought prohibition was a success?
You haven't provided any evidence at all to show that abstinence only education programs were any more successful than comprehensive sex education programs. Contrary to your lack of evidence, MisterOpus has provided a wealth of resources demonstrating the failures of abstinence only education. You continually fail to grasp the simple concept that abstinence only education programs emphasize that condoms do not prevent disease and pregnancy because they are "only" 99% effective. These programs emphasize abstinence as the only solution. Comprehensive sex ed programs state that abstinence is the most effective method, however, in the event of sex, condoms can be immensely effective in preventing disease and pregnancy. Hence it adopts a mutli-tiered approach towards maximizing prevention. |
Which is why this program should have been left as is. |
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