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Is it cruel to stand outside and hold a sign?
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| Jayx1 |
This is a spinoff of the other thread:
Karim says its degrading and cruel. I thought degrading was used for such things as pornography and prostitution. I hardly think that paying a willing person money to hold a sign is "cruel" or "degrading".
If you don't want to do it then there are plenty of jobs that don't involve that. |
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| Tb. |
| how do you manage to care so much..about things? |
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| TrueToTheCrew |
| quote: | Originally posted by Tb.
how do you manage to care so much..about things? |
I think Jay's common theme is WTF is this world coming to.
And i agree with him. Whats next? Is there now going to be a government funded lobby group for people that hold signs, or maybe even unionize them? Its about choice. |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by TrueToTheCrew
I think Jay's common theme is WTF is this world coming to.
And i agree with him. Whats next? Is there now going to be a government funded lobby group for people that hold signs, or maybe even unionize them? Its about choice. |
You got it!
People are so weak these days... Seriously |
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| DJ El Kay Dee |
| which was the other thread??? |
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| Jayx1 |
| "laws like this are ones that should be passed" |
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| Brindor |
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| karim |
LOL, and why does this need it's own thread? :conf:
Jay somehow keeps over looking my standpoint and puts words into my mouth. He thinks that alot of people are "willing" to do this job, as if it's a job that's desirable. They are willing, he's right, willing to settle, meaning they don't really have any freedom in their choice to begin with. They're willing to settle for the only available job out there, because they can't find better ones. Degrading means to lessen, and it's degrading to somebodies self worth because it's a ty job that nobody really wants to do. Like Michael Bolton in office space (in referance to Peter's Guidance counsellor's question on what you'd do with a million dollars) said: "That questions bull to begin with, if everybody listened to her, there'd be no janitors because nobody would wanna clean up for a living if they had a million dollars". You think anybody really wants to hold up a sign outside as an employee? I personally feel bad for people that have to settle for that kind of job or face unemployment. I'm sure alot of other people feel bad for that person too. You can say you enjoy the freshair making the job worthwhile, but I doubt that thought stands for the majority.
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| Spam |
Karim... have you ever worked fast-food? Standing outside and holding a sign is MUCH more desirable than standing around inside dealing with the stupid customers, retarded orders, and stressed out managers. You seem to be of the belief that no one really wants to do it, my experience says otherwise. When I was in Little Ceasar's they had to run a rotation because whoever was working would fight over who got to stand around and do nothing for their shift (oh, except hold that silly sign). Which is really what the sign-job is... free money. It isn't "settling", it's going outside, and getting paid to walk back and forth holding a sign. It's incredibly easy to do, and a lot more fun than any of the work going on inside, you can have competitions with other workers based on how many peopl honked at you, gave you the finger, waved, etc. etc.
Have you ever been paid to stand around waving a sign around? I doubt it, because anyone who HAS done it knows it's the jackpot of the part-time world. |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by karim
LOL, and why does this need it's own thread? :conf:
Jay somehow keeps over looking my standpoint and puts words into my mouth. He thinks that alot of people are "willing" to do this job, as if it's a job that's desirable. They are willing, he's right, willing to settle, meaning they don't really have any freedom in their choice to begin with. They're willing to settle for the only available job out there, because they can't find better ones. Degrading means to lessen, and it's degrading to somebodies self worth because it's a ty job that nobody really wants to do. Like Michael Bolton in office space (in referance to Peter's Guidance counsellor's question on what you'd do with a million dollars) said: "That questions bull to begin with, if everybody listened to her, there'd be no janitors because nobody would wanna clean up for a living if they had a million dollars". You think anybody really wants to hold up a sign outside as an employee? I personally feel bad for people that have to settle for that kind of job or face unemployment. I'm sure alot of other people feel bad for that person too. You can say you enjoy the freshair making the job worthwhile, but I doubt that thought stands for the majority.
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Karim |
Sp in your world everyone is a computer anaylist or rocket scientist? Perhaps some people are in that position for a reason.
Whether it's
A) because its a part time job to earn extra pocket money as a teenager. (usually the case)
B) they are too stupid to do anything else and cant hold a skilled job
C) It's their business or the family's business and want to generate more immediate sales.
Forcing somebody to do the work reminds me more of slave times and whippings than paying somebody money to hold a sign outside. Dude you really need to check your definitions a bit more and also join the real world. It sounds like you've been spoiled all your life and never worked part time during high school or college. If thats the case i feel sorry for you. |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Spam
Karim... have you ever worked fast-food? Standing outside and holding a sign is MUCH more desirable than standing around inside dealing with the stupid customers, retarded orders, and stressed out managers. You seem to be of the belief that no one really wants to do it, my experience says otherwise. When I was in Little Ceasar's they had to run a rotation because whoever was working would fight over who got to stand around and do nothing for their shift (oh, except hold that silly sign). Which is really what the sign-job is... free money. It isn't "settling", it's going outside, and getting paid to walk back and forth holding a sign. It's incredibly easy to do, and a lot more fun than any of the work going on inside, you can have competitions with other workers based on how many peopl honked at you, gave you the finger, waved, etc. etc.
Have you ever been paid to stand around waving a sign around? I doubt it, because anyone who HAS done it knows it's the jackpot of the part-time world. |
It IS fun. You know how many hot women wave and blow kisses? And when the occasional teenager yells something stupid or gives me a finger i laugh because its quite amusing. Most of them time people just wave. In fact the bus drivers all know me now too. Id much rather be outside than deal with snotty customers. Plus i know that it's bringing my cousin and i an average of 20% more immediate sales an an unmeasurable amount of exposure for future sales.
Cruel = forcing me to stand outside naked standing on hot coals. |
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