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| RickyM |
My friend is talking - please correct him. He is 'Feanor' - and I am "What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?".
Feanor says:
hello
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
hello
Feanor says:
had to move a door for me mum there
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
ah right lol
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
now where were we?
Feanor says:
i cant be arsed discussing it
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
Trance isnt the only type of music made on Fruityloops though
Feanor says:
yeah i know, u showed me that site with all the genres
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
and fruityloops is only one program used to make music
Feanor says:
yeah i have used more
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
surely all electronic music producers cant all have no musical skill
Feanor says:
i didnt say none, i said less
Feanor says:
or they may have just as much, but trance music doesnt reflect musical skill
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
im afriad you are wrong
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
some of the melodies in trance songs are brilliant
Feanor says:
what i am saying is, if the producers have loads of musical skill, then trance isnt the best way to display it
Feanor says:
melodies in a trance song vs. riffs and solo's on a guitar (LIVE), there is no comparison
Feanor says:
because the guitar is a lot harder
Feanor says:
it takes more skill
Feanor says:
and can be varied, unlike trance music, which shows very little variation
Feanor says:
beaten
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
yeah true- but that isnt the issue though - it isnt possible to make a trance song live
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
Trance has plenty of variation
Feanor says:
yeah again prooving my point, so little skill is involved
Feanor says:
i dont believe so
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
what if i was to say that Rock music had little variation because it is all guitars?
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
what about Eric Prydz - CAll on Me - that song you love so much - was any musical skill involved in that?
Feanor says:
it sounded different than most other dance songs - hence i liked it, but that isnt a trance song as u well know, and we are discussing trance. also about ur guitar comment, u are missing my point entirely, or are refusing to accept it
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
there are plenty of trance songs that sound different -- to be fair you cant judge as you only can name a few
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
how about I send you one?
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
and see what you think
Feanor says:
i have heards LOADS
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
do name them then
Feanor says:
u forget when i wa syounger i used to listen to trance
Feanor says:
Future Sound of London - Papua New Guinea
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
any more?
Feanor says:
that one isnt too bad actually
Feanor says:
Underworld - Born Slippy
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" sends:
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
listen to that
Sending of "08 Foreplay.mp3" to Feanor has failed.
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
Born Slippy is not Trance
Feanor says:
Motorcycle - As The Rush Comes
Feanor says:
Faithless - Insomnia
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
yeah thats Trance - but I happen to not like Motorcycle
Feanor says:
Oceanlab - Satellite
Feanor says:
its all e
Feanor says:
i have heard a lot more that i dont know the names of
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
listen - any can make a Trance Song - but it takes a lot to make a decent one
Feanor says:
u have prooven my point!! thanks
Feanor says:
u agreed
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
yeah...that wasnt your point though
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
your point was that it doesnt take a lot of skill to make a track on Fruityloops
Feanor says:
yeah exactly
Feanor says:
hence any can do it
Feanor says:
case closed sunshine
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
which is true - but my point is that it take s a lot of skill to make a decent track
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
don t you agree?
Feanor says:
nope
Feanor says:
because simple tracks can be decent
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
like what?
Feanor says:
defeated
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
yeah whatever
Feanor says:
haha u always know when someone is defeated when they reply 'whatever'
Feanor says:
they have notghin to say
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
im not defeated - the fact you no so little about Trance makes your argumetn stupid
Feanor says:
i know more about trance than u do about my music tho, funk, rock, metal etc
Feanor says:
so it puts me in a position to judge
Feanor says:
dee
Feanor says:
feeted
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
What about Funk music made on Electronic programs?
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
is it talentless?
Feanor says:
nope
Feanor says:
it takes skill because it is used with proper instruments
Feanor says:
lets just drop it
Feanor says:
u have lost
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
Funk music with electronic programs numb nuts
Feanor says:
i dont want u to go to sleep crying
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
you know your argument is weightless
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
just you keep tellin yourself youve won
Feanor says:
but ur argument is weightless, u know so little about my music
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
and ill post this conv on a trance forum - so you can see the way your argument is defeated
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
but the argument is about Trance
Feanor says:
i know a bit about trance BECAUSE IV GIVEN IT A CHANCE
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
i am not saying that it doesnt take skill to make music you like
Feanor says:
therefore my opinions stand as viable arguments
Feanor says:
i said it takes less skill
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
just because you dont like a genre doesnt mean that you cant appreciate the talent and skill that goes into it
Feanor says:
but it is my belief that it doesnt take an extrodinary amount of talent to make that music
Feanor says:
and u have said nothin to make me change that belief as u are intent on disagreeing
Feanor says:
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
fair enough - but thats your belief
Feanor says:
thanks
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
if it doesnt take much to make a trance track then why dont you
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
why dont you get a track signed?
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
and get it played on AVB's radio show?
Feanor says:
u said urself, and can make a trance track
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
yeah true
Feanor says:
well, i gtg here richard, it was lovely pissin u off
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
but i hardly think that any song you make on fruityloops will be igned by a record company
Feanor says:
likewise
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
leavin in the heat of the battle lol!
Feanor says:
im away to bed
Feanor says:
the battle has been won
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
yeah prob truie about my taracks
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
but then you prove my piont
Feanor says:
see ya
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
Feanor says:
Feanor says:
laters
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
bye
Feanor says:
bye
Feanor says:
ahahahahahahaaaaa
"What am I a f*cking clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?" says:
lol go and cry yourself to sleep
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| UWM |
| Surely we didn't need the entire conversation. |
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| flavdave |
| Can you just summarize what he said? That is too painful to read. |
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| n0bben |
| gotta hate the "nicknames" people use on MSN |
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| Tranquil010 |
| I dont know what to think, that conversation was kind of pointless... bah... lol... it was kind of funny though |
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| RickyM |
| quote: | Originally posted by flavdave
Can you just summarize what he said? That is too painful to read. |
Yeah - he basically said that Trance music takes very little skill to make - because he made one in fruityloops (e may I add - he just clicked random notes)- and thinks its easy. He also said all Trance sounds the same.(which some of it does, but not all)
He also says that Eric Prydz - Call on Me sounds different than other tracks - so therefore took a lot of musical talent to produce. (Apart from the fact its the same over and over again).
He also says that other genres made in programs like Fruityloops like 'Funk' and 'Rap' take musical skill.
Summarised for you Dave. (With some of his other opinions) |
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| Redd |
Just tell him to piss off. I promise you, there is no convincing him he's wrong about anything. I've tried like a billion times, and I've figured out what you should. There is no point.
The fact that something is easy to do doesn't automatically make it worse than anything else. If anyone can make a decent tune then great, technology has done this by giving us the tools to make it happen. It's not like text on paper was so much better before than they are now, thanks to the typewriter/computer. How about computerized art/pictures? There are so many things you can do on a computer that you cant with a brush or a pencil, and a computer can almost imitate any form of brushes etc. Of course, it doesn't replace the old way, but it's certainly not any "less good"?
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| AlphaStarred |
| quote: | Originally posted by DragonsEmerald
n00bs |
+1 |
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| DragonsEmerald |
| quote: | Originally posted by AlphaStarred
+1 |
Ur a n00b too. |
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| AlphaStarred |
| quote: | Originally posted by DragonsEmerald
Ur a n00b too. |
blow me. |
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| criticalpath |
What's up with all these trance threads lately?
- Why is it people associate all electronic music with techno and not trance?
- Please read this and tell my friend he is wrong
- Is trance dying?
- Is there such a thing as too much trance?
- Airplane Trance !!!!
Love all these HQ threads. :p |
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