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When do you think it's too late to start DJing? (pg. 3)
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| Floorfiller |
| quote: | Originally posted by beats and beeps
I think being too young is more of a factor actually.
If a person is of clubbing age, they can learn to dj, and play in a club within weeks. The getting gigs, and having fun will keep them at it.
Many djs who start around 15/16 seem to grow bored of it by the time they hit clubbing age.
Of course I realise there are some that never get bored of it, but theres alot more that do... |
i can agree with this to an extent. i think that's even more a factor with some of the young producers out there though. i think getting into djing and or production at a young age only encourages a lack of creativity in their sets and productions. i think usually i find the case that their sets lack a certain amount of vision and productions by some of the younger producers out there lack a level of maturity. i'm sure many will disagree, but that's what i've kinda noticed.. |
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| beats and beeps |
| quote: | Originally posted by dinoXpress
what if they are already clubbing at 15/16.
im 17 and ive had to opportunity to go clubbing weekly since i was 14, due to the places ive lived.and i spin, what will happen to me!?!?!?!?!?! |
Good for you.
I have still failed to see many well known (non turntablism)djs under the age of 18.
If we were talking about turntablism it would be a whole different story.
Also, if a dj starts young, and loves it, he may very well continue to do it well into clubbing age. I've also seen alot of cases where djs who start that young start djing for themselves, and their style become VERY self indulgent. So much so that their style has absolutly no appeal to clubbers, and they no longer even are concerned with djing in clubs.
One very mild case would be james zabiela. I mean, he is a club dj for sure, but if he had come in doing what he is doing 2 years ago, it would not have gone over well with clubbers at all.
Hell, I've seen clubbers on other forums still complain that his sets are too self indulgent, but I think they are just bitching for the sake of doing so. |
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| Plastick |
| I've always been having this small dream(or desire) of being able to own a decent setup and pick up djing for like...almost 3yrs? May not be appropriate to answer the question, but if im able to do so, personally i'll say 16-17. Im 20 this year and i'm starting to feel that as i ages, the more complicated life is :( I guess it will be more fun to start djing at a younger age. |
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| Dj Dissent |
| quote: | Originally posted by beats and beeps
Good for you.
I have still failed to see many well known (non turntablism)djs under the age of 18.
If we were talking about turntablism it would be a whole different story.
Also, if a dj starts young, and loves it, he may very well continue to do it well into clubbing age. I've also seen alot of cases where djs who start that young start djing for themselves, and their style become VERY self indulgent. So much so that their style has absolutly no appeal to clubbers, and they no longer even are concerned with djing in clubs.
One very mild case would be james zabiela. I mean, he is a club dj for sure, but if he had come in doing what he is doing 2 years ago, it would not have gone over well with clubbers at all.
Hell, I've seen clubbers on other forums still complain that his sets are too self indulgent, but I think they are just bitching for the sake of doing so. |
Good point there. Never thought about that |
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| wee_rooney |
| quote: | Originally posted by beats and beeps
I've also seen alot of cases where djs who start that young start djing for themselves, and their style become VERY self indulgent. So much so that their style has absolutly no appeal to clubbers, and they no longer even are concerned with djing in clubs.
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but djing isnt all about being in a club! if it were then age probably is a concern, but its not. just because you dont dj in a club/bar or in front of clubbers, or any audiance for that matter, doesnt mean your not a dj.
so age shouldnt really be a concern for djing! |
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| Boomer187 |
only thing id think of that would be a disadvantage to starting too late is physical disabilities, like someone mentioned hearing loss, also standing for so long...I am starting to notice it at age 24 :wtf:
also depends on wtf ya wanna do, if you wanna become the next huge worldwide dj, I doubt starting at like 30 would get ya there...but if you wanna spin good records and maybe get a few gigs at local places...its no problem.
also I always tell the youngins that want decks at 14 to start producing instead, get the decks a few years later after they make some killer tracks, then it is soooo much easier to understand a lot about djin. plus if the rtacks are kick ass and labels like it, you can get in on promos easier. |
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| memusa |
I think age is important for the sole reason that as you get older, you get busier and more involved in work and have less time to look for good tracks and practice.
I started about a year and a half ago and I'm 24 now, and do feel like if I'd started earlier, when I was still in high school maybe, I would have had much more time to practice and stuff.
I mean, think about it. It's unlikely a person working a normal schedule will stay hooked to TA everyday to see what's going on. If he or she is, then that's not a ver dedicated employee. And that's where the problem lies. |
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| Floorfiller |
| quote: | Originally posted by memusa
I mean, think about it. It's unlikely a person working a normal schedule will stay hooked to TA everyday to see what's going on. If he or she is, then that's not a ver dedicated employee. And that's where the problem lies. |
why not? i do that everyday hahaha. i think some of the biggest TA's are on TA as they are at work. perhaps we aren't dedicated employee's though hehehe :p; |
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| memusa |
| quote: | Originally posted by Floorfiller
why not? i do that everyday hahaha. i think some of the biggest TA's are on TA as they are at work. perhaps we aren't dedicated employee's though hehehe :p; |
presicely my point ;) |
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| Danny Ocean |
| quote: | Originally posted by Boomer187
only thing id think of that would be a disadvantage to starting too late is physical disabilities, like someone mentioned hearing loss |
well...hearing loss didnt stop Beethoven from composing masterpieces centuries ago..
my point is that you can work around any disadvantages unless you are paralyzed. |
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| dinoXpress |
| quote: | Originally posted by beats and beeps
Good for you.
I have still failed to see many well known (non turntablism)djs under the age of 18.
If we were talking about turntablism it would be a whole different story.
Also, if a dj starts young, and loves it, he may very well continue to do it well into clubbing age. I've also seen alot of cases where djs who start that young start djing for themselves, and their style become VERY self indulgent. So much so that their style has absolutly no appeal to clubbers, and they no longer even are concerned with djing in clubs.
One very mild case would be james zabiela. I mean, he is a club dj for sure, but if he had come in doing what he is doing 2 years ago, it would not have gone over well with clubbers at all.
Hell, I've seen clubbers on other forums still complain that his sets are too self indulgent, but I think they are just bitching for the sake of doing so. |
im not looking for a pat on the back, im just trying add something somewhat useful to the conversation.
In the countries ive lived in, there is no age limits. I first saw tiesto at 15, armin at 16, Keoki at 16, Digweed last semsetre, and a load more, all at either nightclubs or festivals where there us alchohol whatever, does this make me cool or whatever? no, its a cultural difference, all this does is inspire me to move into working at a club, and see some kickass djs on the way, but with experience cubbing before 18, im sure it gives me some exeprience dealing with what the crwod wants and how to play to different crowds. djing for me is aout the people as well as the music. Sharing the music with the people. |
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| First Strike |
| quote: | Originally posted by Boomer187
only thing id think of that would be a disadvantage to starting too late is physical disabilities, like someone mentioned hearing loss, also standing for so long...I am starting to notice it at age 24 :wtf:
also depends on wtf ya wanna do, if you wanna become the next huge worldwide dj, I doubt starting at like 30 would get ya there...but if you wanna spin good records and maybe get a few gigs at local places...its no problem.
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hearing- well Carl Cox has been djing for 20 yrs+ and he still goes ok:p , and thats 20 years of heavy exposure to loud music so ....
& there a djs who went from bedroom to 'big name dj' quick (with out the usual years of playing out and building suport) all it takes is one good track or demo & who knows where it will take you and your age is not a real factor... |
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