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| Theresa |
I think people would be and are much more willing to spend money on an album if the album is providing the quality that the consumer deserves.
I think that file sharing is a way for people to test out if they like an artists music, and when they decide, they can make an effort to collect and support their work.
Sure this isn't always the case, however there ARE still people supporting their favourite artists.
Maybe if these big greedy-ass record companies weren't quickly throwing onto CD's half the time to mass produce and sell them for as much money as they can, leaving the buyer's disappointed with where their hard earned money went, people wouldn't be so inclined to "steal" the songs first.
There have been many times where I bought a CD, and the one song I knew I liked was on it, and the rest were garbage. I wasted $25 on a coaster!
Record companies need to start selling QUALITY work, stuff people will enjoy, or the people wont want to buy it.
I have discovered more artists through Kazaa, DC++ etc. then I ever would. I do not watch TV at all, and I rarely listen to the radio. If it hadn't been for file sharing, I wouldn't be the TranceAddict I am today.
I think that file sharing is making music better for the consumers, and that, in my opinion, is what is most important. Finally, people are getting the music they want, and not the that they feed us.
On the other hand, I don't think it is fair for the little guys on the food chain.
I dunno, for me I am torn in two ways. I do have an idea though that would really help solve this problem. However, I think I would need to get in touch with someone in a higher position to get it into action. |
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| djshan |
| im glad they have this.! |
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| TrickDaddE |
If the Music industry wanted it stopped they could... Trust me.
With modern technology and encryption they could team up with the CD/DVD manufactures and at least slow it down via hardware and software.
The key is they do not want to invest the $$$ to do this and as I previously stated they are still making multi- millions of kiddie-pop crap, so why bother.
But I do beleive a compnay called macrovision is releasing a product in the next several month that will not allow the decrypting of DVD's.
For a couple months anyways until it is hacked too LOL |
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| zdrux |
Another point..
Why was it ok to copy songs on tapes from your friends? I`m sorry but I didnt hear any mass-lawsuits being filed then from the RIAA? What is the difference between tapes and mp3s ?!
The only difference I see is that mp3s can be copied is much larger quantities, and more quantities means more money - which means the RIAA is not really going after piracy because they would have done that from day one. They are being selective, they are going where they see the most money, which is in the number of mp3s being trader today, and not after the actual crime of copyright infrigment.
Also, if the artists would smarten up, they would drop the RIAA and comeup with a new bussiness model. If all the artists would provide their work on a central location where everybody from around the world can download tracks from every artist for say $0.50 - that would effectively put websites like mine out of bussiness, but that would also put the RIAA out of bussiness and move all the money to the artists, now we cant have that can we? Artists making profits without their big middle man? That's absurd thinking :haha: |
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| TrickDaddE |
The only argument is that of the quality loss when copying from Vinyl to Tape and then from Tape to Tape.
Each time it is copied the quality gets worse.
Whereas in the digital age there is no quality loss! |
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| ++ EGO ++ |
| quote: | Originally posted by rabbitjoker
For sites that offer illegal downloads they damn well should.
What part of "The illegal downloading of motion pictures (and music) robs thousands of honest, hard-working people of their livelihood" don't you understand? |
I agree with this. |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by TrickDaddE
The only argument is that of the quality loss when copying from Vinyl to Tape and then from Tape to Tape.
Each time it is copied the quality gets worse.
Whereas in the digital age there is no quality loss! |
Wanna bet? MP3s are compared to a true CD or true vinyl copy. |
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| TheNeonAlien |
so funny you mention torrent sites.
i was browsing torrent sites at school when this HUGE porn pop up came across the screen right when a class got out. :haha: :stongue:
that bitch was sucking a mean cock.
anyways i was using those ghetto computers in york's hallways so.... to load the "back" page took like ten years.
anyways that was my funny for the day. ing porn pop ups. |
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| TheNeonAlien |
so funny you mention torrent sites.
i was browsing torrent sites at school when this HUGE porn pop up came across the screen right when a class got out. :haha: :stongue:
that bitch was sucking a mean cock.
anyways i was using those ghetto computers in york's hallways so.... to load the "back" page took like ten years.
anyways that was my funny for the day. ing porn pop ups. |
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| TheNeonAlien |
im still using the ghetto comp right now,
i submitted the msg twice cause the computer takes so long.
in pentium 286. |
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| TrickDaddE |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
Wanna bet? MP3s are compared to a true CD or true vinyl copy. |
True about the MP3's and I was going to mention that in my previous post they are compressed but they do not lose quality from their original state and bitrate.
As for the Vinyl situation yes guy if you are a true audiophile and are buying quality pressed vinyl and have a expensive gear then you are absolutely correct.
But there is still the law of friction and The LP's do wear out so there is an argument that CD (wav) format is better but does not have the Body and depth of tones that good vinyl does.
Keep in mind unless you are listening to Classical music or are buying Imported Vinyl your statement is not true!
Good pressed vinyl is almost 2x thick and 3x in weight of most of the crap we get in North America.
For the average consumer CD is the best bet bro! |
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| St_Andrew |
Good points everyone (esp zdrux) :) (people that is against RIAA etc that is :haha:)
| quote: | Originally posted by rabbitjoker
Sites that provide services to collaborate theft should be shut down.
If the product is and the price is too high - then don't buy it. But don't STEAL it either. Using Theresa's logic: if the ty chocolate bar is too expensive (has low value) than stealing it from the corner store is ok. |
There is a difference tho, if you steal a chocolate bar from the corner store, then it actually cost money for the corner store. When you download something it doesnt cost anything for the record company, and you would probably not have bought it anyway. However, if you planned to buy an album, but instead downloaded it, then its stealing.
| quote: | Yes - if you steal music, people don't get paid. Every time you steal an album that my brother gets points on, he doesn't get paid. So you think the album is too expensive @ $9.99 - fine - but do you think it's fair to steal wages and compensation from people like my brother who puts in 16 hour days for 6 months straight to complete and album?
I think you'd all be surprised with the economics of the record business. Obviously none of you here have any clue on the cost of a CD and how it gets split up. |
there are many good artists without a label that can make a living on their music. so obviously you can do it in another way, the record industry is just not adapting to the new market. |
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