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brian
Any of you guys taught yourself Japanese? I just started late last week and have learned the hiragana so far, and about 75 kanji. w00t. Was just wondering though if anyone has suggestions as to a good order/methodology of learning Japanese..
Sunsnail
I think you should take it slower...I mean 75 kanji? I think you'd forgot most of them in a week
Mr. Pink
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Originally posted by brian
Any of you guys taught yourself Japanese?



HAhahaha!!!!!

s0n, im still trying to learn english.

gimme a break
beats and beeps
When do you start shoving naked women in phone booths, stuffing eels into your anal cavity, and riding chicken bikes while wearing shirts that say "#1 ultrahomo relax!"?

Thats the real important stuff.
Floorfiller
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Originally posted by brian
Any of you guys taught yourself Japanese? I just started late last week and have learned the hiragana so far, and about 75 kanji. w00t. Was just wondering though if anyone has suggestions as to a good order/methodology of learning Japanese..


well...that is pretty quick man. i don't think it'd be impossible to teach yourself japanese...it's a pretty easy language to speak because you speak it exactly how its spelled, but 75 kanji in a week? i took japanese for 4.5 years and i don't think i had down 75 kanji hahaha...:p


the way they teach you is

1. learn the hiragana alphabet (sounds like you getting that)
2. learn basic grammar constructions
3. learn kanji
4. learn advanced grammar constuctions
5. speak and practice until you hate japanese hahaha :p
Yan
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Originally posted by Floorfiller
well...that is pretty quick man. i don't think it'd be impossible to teach yourself japanese...it's a pretty easy language to speak because you speak it exactly how its spelled, but 75 kanji in a week? i took japanese for 4.5 years and i don't think i had down 75 kanji hahaha...:p


the way they teach you is

1. learn the hiragana alphabet (sounds like you getting that)
2. learn basic grammar constructions
3. learn kanji
4. learn advanced grammar constuctions
5. speak and practice until you hate japanese hahaha :p


One little correction:

1.5) Learn Katakana
Orbax
yeah katakana is helpful as hell...

basically dont teach yourself. Find a japanese teacher. I had so many questions on how they actually say it in Japan and using aphorisms, colloquialisms, etc that when ive gone back to teaching myself at home its useless cuz its just bull. I know basic...and i think i might be able to get around very poorly in japan, but at home seems to just be refreshers and filling out more of the same kind of stuff ive already learned.

Id say just go take a class ;)
brian
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Originally posted by Floorfiller
well...that is pretty quick man. i don't think it'd be impossible to teach yourself japanese...it's a pretty easy language to speak because you speak it exactly how its spelled


Indeed...I've heard a few people say its difficult because its structured so differently than english is and leaves a little bit more for the mind/imagination to interpret...but it seems rather easy when you let go of some of the habits you pick up in English.

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Originally posted by Floorfiller
75 kanji in a week? i took japanese for 4.5 years and i don't think i had down 75 kanji hahaha...:p


haha...pretty much all the ones I've learned were really basic. There are some that I can't remember exactly how to write yet, but I can read them alright.


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Originally posted by Floorfiller
1. learn the hiragana alphabet (sounds like you getting that)
2. learn basic grammar constructions
3. learn kanji
4. learn advanced grammar constuctions
5. speak and practice until you hate japanese hahaha :p


haha.. sweet. thanks for the methodology, will definitely try doing it that way. I just didn't want to do it all completely randomly, as I probably would have frustrated myself and given up on it. This helps though :D
brian
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Originally posted by Yan
One little correction:

1.5) Learn Katakana


Ah yes, katakana is indeed my next step -- I'm waiting until I'm able to interpret and fire off hiragana a bit more impulsively. Should be soon though.
brian
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Originally posted by Orbax
basically dont teach yourself. Find a japanese teacher. I had so many questions on how they actually say it in Japan and using aphorisms, colloquialisms, etc that when ive gone back to teaching myself at home its useless cuz its just bull. I know basic...and i think i might be able to get around very poorly in japan, but at home seems to just be refreshers and filling out more of the same kind of stuff ive already learned.

Id say just go take a class ;)


I'd love to take a class, but I'm not sure yet if I'll be returning here next year (financial issues), and if I'm not then it'll be fall 2006 before I can take 101 again. I'm still very much looking into that, though.

There is a student teaching assistant at this university that is actually the japanese professor for both semesters of it - he's from Japan so he pretty much knows his stuff. I think he's even in my major. I'll probably be bothering him a bit with questions once I move on to the grammar constructs...

CityKitty
you should talk to Yan, if you know who he is. As far as I know, he's taking Japanese at Stony Brook. HE could probably teach you something.
Floorfiller
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Originally posted by Yan
One little correction:

1.5) Learn Katakana


ah yes...thank you ahhahaha...i couldn't remember what it was called so i left it out :p
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