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| DJMaytag |
| quote: | Originally posted by ZxZDeViLZxZ
dj maytag your post was about as usefull as me asking my mom how it sound except i think even she could of given me a better response. just pointing out that its slightly important to include information about it and to cover more of it. what sounds are hollow what arraganement issue the minute of pads and then the beat kicking ina nd then a 3minute break and build i asked for opions on where to take the track. not give me useless information, however on a side note cheap isnt really the word the correct word would be not your typical dance track. not all tracks goal is to be a insanely climatic track. ambeint orinted tracks dont really have alot of that as the feel of them are differnt. if i wanted to go for that i would of just used a large amount of instances of vanguard. mostly i was going for a more ambient chilled out track. but hey you aparently know what dance music is and i dont. so its all good, just think its important to point out its not dance music as id say dance music is rather cheap. kinda funny you say this tho as i guess my opions differnct where i think trance music is more so a direct reflection of symphonic music and i doubt youd say that. however thats the differnce between the now and the stuff that used to be produce. yes the synths are hollow im aware of that and i was trying to get information on how to add more depth to them possible more layering maybe some information on where i should harmonise some of the melody sections to give it more sound depth. but all in all utterly useless post |
OK, so I guess we're not on the same page as far as the target audience. I was under the impression that this was something for someone to dance to. Sorry. |
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| Derivative |
| quote: | | well to be honest i use audio realism bassline or claw or bass station or a soundfont i have from a minimoog. and honestly the best thing ive found is using a fm synth for bass or the soundfont. and well psy basslines imo are easy my problems are heavy trance and heavy prog basslines. |
on the contrary i think psy basslines can be very intricate and very difficult to get right. but as you say. give us an example of a prog bassline and ill give it a go at recreating it. either way, 99% of most dance basslines are the signiture sound of:
tb-303, sh-101, minimoog, oberheim sem, alpha juno, arp odyssey, cs-80, OSCar and more recently the virus has a very distinctive bass growl.
which is lucky cuz theres alot of cheap softies/freebies out there that emulate most of those.
there are certain exceptions to the rule though. drum and bass basslines are typically synthesized out of low frequency sine waves - or samples of 808 kick drums with the click removed. either that or reeces which can be any lead synth distorted to holy and back.
but yea. if you already have a good stack of bass resources why havent you used them in this track? both your remixes are extremely bass light.
also - theres no need to jump on maytag :( hes only trying to help |
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| oboema |
| quote: | Originally posted by ZxZDeViLZxZ
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dude you should be thankfull the guy at least tried to give a decent response,it seems you allready know it all,so why come here and ask for comments |
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| ZxZDeViLZxZ |
sorry maytag just well i didnt think you posted anything usefull and thought it to be a rahter useless post. yes psy basslines are intricate but alot of it can be done by just setting controlls for your cut/res/env and have them change based on the oter and so on.
becuase i cant get a heavy bass to come out of the synths its nearly impossible for me to make a good bassline. ill post 4 examples of a bassline ive done. listen and see what i mean when im saying i cant get a good bass rumble out of them without it sounding too cheaply made. i dont know if its bad eqing or just bad note placement.
here they are and what was used to make them
1.Audio Realisms Bassline Without eqing and
LINK
2.Audio Realisms BassLine with eqing and
LINK
3.FM Synthesised BassLine with Fruity DX10
LINK
4. Arturia Minimoog V BassLine
LINK
there are 4 examples. as i said its really hard for me to get a good bassline period and really annoying to the point where i get so pissed off i dont do for a few weeks. its really frustrating and i want to know if maybe im doing something wrong or what. |
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| ZxZDeViLZxZ |
| heres a remix i started today using all fruity loops internal plugins and synths. bout an hour of work LINK its a remix of digital blonde - gothica |
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| Derivative |
for a start those basslines are far too high! i reckon that could go down an octave and with a bit of EQ we should have it sitting around the kick between 30 and 200hz. ill post some 303 bass examples in a bit
also, encode them as mp3! downloading wavs takes ages! |
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| Agenz |
| quote: | Originally posted by oboema
dude you should be thankfull the guy at least tried to give a decent response,it seems you allready know it all,so why come here and ask for comments |
Well said Oboema....IMHO I would not have put it up until it sounded better but hey that's just me.
I am sure there's plenty of tips/advise on this forum to get things sounding better ;)
No offence m8 :p |
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| ZxZDeViLZxZ |
see thats the problem when i bring them down a few octaves either the notes or in the tuning of the synth i sometimes end up with phasing or i end up with just unaudiable rumble and audioable rumble here and there. its really ing annoying let me see what i can do tho by dropping octaves and such. heres a bassline using the ts404 and dropped tuning and using 7band eq to drop everything above 1500hz and rasinig 63hz to 7.9 250hz to 1.4 and 900hz to 0.6 then bass boosted 73hz
tell me if its any better heres a LINK tell me if that sounds better notes are in range of f2# and c3# |
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| Derivative |
heres a big bad 303 bassline made with audiorealism bassline. its so good i had to have it and ive been doing bass and acid tests for the past 3 days. even bunked lectures on monday to make sweet noise:
http://www.soundclick.us/fastk6/10/...gbad303bass.mp3
its played an octave apart. the lower octave is d2. the higher one is d3. its played LOW. fruity internals only + the freeware distortion plugin stereo greasetube.
EDIT: devil you need to filter out that top end and maybe a little of the midrange. your basses thus far have much more lower mid range presence than bass presence. i usually compress a bass patch, then low pass filter it till i get rid of most of the upper mids and highs. then compress it hard again. then any kind of low frequency stimulator, bass boost or distortion plugin to give it a little extra oomph. the key part is the compression though. it allows you to squash every tiny bit of dynamic range out of the instrument so you are left with this massive, warm and pure bass tone. |
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I dunno its sounds kinda dirty all the sounds sound rought you know?
Nice track though, would like a better qual version though :) |
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| ZxZDeViLZxZ |
hmmz well i think this bass sound im wokring with right now for a remix of solid session - janerio using the ts404 i think ive got a decent bass sound now i used a buzz effects adapter with the sterobox effect and loaded maxxbass preset and it create the umphh i wanted but i still dont think its right ill post a sample of it in a few minutes once i get mroe work done on the track. nevermind im still getting way too much high end sound. even when i eq everything above 500hz out i still get a not soo deep sound. hmmz im going to give what you said a shot now tho and post my results.
derrivitive where can i get greasetube if possible can you email it to me lucid.strings@gmail.com as i cnat find it on the authors site |
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| ZxZDeViLZxZ |
| project 7 which track ive posted like 3 so far in thsi thread lol |
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