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fine tuning the beatmatch (pg. 2)
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| Desty Nova |
| You can beatmatch (espeically trance) without decks or pitch adjustment at all. I used to run two tracks at the same time with Quick time on my Macintosh Power PC and have them perfectly syncopated. I'd say the trick is being able to know excatly when to let go. When you're using decks train yourself to listen for the echo. Its hard to explain but they'll sort of build off each other when they're nailed. |
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| DannyO |
| quote: | Originally posted by Desty Nova
You can beatmatch (espeically trance) without decks or pitch adjustment at all. I used to run two tracks at the same time with Quick time on my Macintosh Power PC and have them perfectly syncopated. I'd say the trick is being able to know excatly when to let go. When you're using decks train yourself to listen for the echo. Its hard to explain but they'll sort of build off each other when they're nailed. |
Sorry but thats not beatmatching, sounds to me like your just waiting till theres a breakdown and mixing the 2 tracks when neither of them have a beat, unless the all the tracks you were mixing were all a set BPM, theres no way they could be beatmatched without adjusting pitch, and even in a breakdown mixing into another breakdown or a track without a beat, you can still hear there not beatmatched as the rhythm will be off. |
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| Desty Nova |
| I'm telling you there are some tracks that are so close that you can beatmix without changeing pitch. Its just like taking two copies of the same record and beatmixing them at Quatz lock. |
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| Desty Nova |
| None of that ambient-beat fadering! |
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| DannyO |
| quote: | Originally posted by Desty Nova
I'm telling you there are some tracks that are so close that you can beatmix without changeing pitch. Its just like taking two copies of the same record and beatmixing them at Quatz lock. |
You can do what your saying here, as I have various records that are probably made at the exact same BPM, so if they were both at the same pitch, they would be beatmatched without me doign anything, but you can't do that threw every mix, but I get what your saying at. |
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| fr3sh |
| but we're talking about fine tuning beatmatching here... so that being said... once i am getting good they should be able to stick with no noticable drifting for 1 minute? |
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| eyeball_2003 |
| use your hand on the platter ffs!, if it sounds better move the pitch upward... it it sounds worse move that pitch down! ;) |
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| ibiza_cat |
I use the 800's, and the pitch slider is kind of sensitive but apply the same principle, I think it works anyway:
track B is playing, and its almost time to mix in track A so adjust the pitch so you know A is a bit ahead of track B in pitch, bring it a bit slower but still so you know if A will drift, its going to go ahead of B. that way every time you head the bass drum doubling just spin back A to fix it, that way you can maintain the beat and use the extra hand for fader or EQ.
I hope this helps, thats the way i learned anyway and ive got my beatmatching almost perfect. |
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| eyeball_2003 |
| quote: | Originally posted by ibiza_cat
I use the 800's, and the pitch slider is kind of sensitive but apply the same principle, I think it works anyway:
track B is playing, and its almost time to mix in track A so adjust the pitch so you know A is a bit ahead of track B in pitch, bring it a bit slower but still so you know if A will drift, its going to go ahead of B. that way every time you head the bass drum doubling just spin back A to fix it, that way you can maintain the beat and use the extra hand for fader or EQ.
I hope this helps, thats the way i learned anyway and ive got my beatmatching almost perfect. |
that sounds interesting.... can u explain more on this cos i dont quite understand what u mean.
thanks |
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| DannyO |
| quote: | Originally posted by eyeball_2003
that sounds interesting.... can u explain more on this cos i dont quite understand what u mean.
thanks |
What he means is, if you try and get it spot on then when it drifts you might not be to sure on if its too fast or too slow, so if you make it very slightly faster than what you think it should be, you know that if they drift, you just have to slow down the record a slight bit. |
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| MessiahProject |
Dear oh dear - this is the first time Ive visited this forum and I cant believe what im reading! Everybody is trying to put into words how to beatmatch, when the only possible way of doing is with your ears and plenty of practice! The basics can be written in a manual but it takes years of practice to get your ears trained to listen when the 2 beats are milliseconds out and how to put things right. Ive been Djing since the early and practiced for hours and hours on end. The thing that seperates the 'bedroom Dj' and the pro is just that - years of practice and knowing your tunes inside out. So instead of reading all this rubbish people are trying to tell you, you would be better spending the time practicing!!
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| Exodus17 |
^blunt but true... more practice, less discussion
i own cheapo belt decks and the way i taught myself to match was to keep a finger lightly resting on the cue track while its spinning, that way when i cue them up, i can "feel" which track is off, if i need to continuously push the cue track to keep it matched then its obviously going too slow so i make the necessary adjustments to the pitch untill i no longer need to give it any encouragement...
just the same, if i find myself needing to apply pressure to the cue track to slow it down, or pinch the spindle, its going too fast so i pitch it down however much it needs untill im satisfied and i dont need to babysit the deck any longer
with belt drives, the mixes will almost never be perfect for very long without any slight pitching... i use the finger on the record/ pinch the spindle method b/c it gives me faster results than trying to ride the pitch.. half of it depends on your decks for how long you can keep a perfect mix |
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