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Cyber Trance??
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| cybernetica |
| I got a mix labelled as "Cyber Trance" and it's not the first time I heard that genre description. Can you tell me what Cyber Trance is? Sounds nice so far but I need a closer definition. Thanks in advance :) |
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| Zenchowdah |
| quote: | Originally posted by Ishkur
Doesn't exist. |
shut up. |
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| cybernetica |
| really? what is music labelled as cyber trance then? |
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| auranaut |
| quote: | Originally posted by Zenchowdah
shut up. |
No, really, why would it exist? What the hell does it even mean? Trance is cyberlicious by nature. :p |
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| CGRumler |
| I know that Cyber Trance is the name of a cd series that's put out by, I think, Avex Trex. That could be where you've been hearing it from. |
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| DJ Tranz |
| quote: | Originally posted by cybernetica
really? what is music labelled as cyber trance then? |
Cyber Trance Pioneers are Tom Slik(Skills Recordings, Dancing-Spirits Records, US & UK), Dyloot(Frequency 8, Skills Recordings, Dancing-Spirits Records, MoonFlower Recordings, Noizest Records, US, UK, Italy), Steve Baltes(AlphabetCity Recordings, Skills Recordings, Frequency 8, Dancing-Spirits Records, MoonFlower Recordings, Noizest Records, US, UK, Italy, Germany), MARS(Frequency 8, US-UK), Mystre(Frequency 8, Dancing-Spirits Records, Reverb Recordings, US-UK)
Cyber Trance, imo, is much darker and deeper trance, yet has same energy level as Epic Trance, and just like Epic Trance, Cyber Trance is also very Melodic. Someone also mentioned to me that Cyber Trance tends to sound just a bit more "computerized" than Epic Trance.
Cheers... |
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| DJ Tranz |
| quote: | Originally posted by cybernetica
really? what is music labelled as cyber trance then? |
ps... hehehehehehe, just noticed that you're from Cologne, Germany and that's where Steve Baltes lives, one of the Pioneers of Cyber Trance. Steve happens to work at some huge audio equipment and music instruments store there, sorry forgot the name of it, but I know it is the biggest such store in Cologne, maybe if you catch him there, he could explain Cyber Trance much better to you. You can also check out Steve's recent Live PA sets from major events in USA and elsewhere at www.stevebaltes.de
Cheers... |
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| Absolut_Vodka |
| so something on the lines of Matt Darey pres Li Kwan - Point Zero (Digital Blonde 2004 Remix)? |
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| emperorhui |
| quote: | Originally posted by Ishkur
Doesn't exist. |
| quote: | Originally posted by Ishkur
Wrong. |
Ishkur, just because you've never heard of it doesn't mean that the genre does not exist. I don't say this very often, but you need to shut up and rethink what you are saying. New genres can spawn whether you like it or not. You only sound like a whining child going around saying such unproductive words. How about telling us WHY it doesn't exist to you? I've seen you put up an argument with clear evidence. Let's see some of it here.
I've never heard of this genre myself but I'm interested to know what it is. |
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| Ishkur |
Mars & Mystre don't produce nor play any cybertrance. Their work is mostly Hard Acid and NRG. They have released exactly four records.
The term cybertrance was lifted from a cd compilation series, but for the most part no one outside of San Francisco has barely heard of it, much less know what it means. It seems to have bubbled up out of the central Californian scene to mean any trance played by them.
Efforts to pin down this elusive genre has resulted in some of the most bizarre claims and contradictory definitions.
As a rule of thumb, I wouldn't call it a separate type of trance until:
1) Its sound is distinctive and unique
2) There is (or was) a growing movement geared towards making music in this distinctive sound
3) It gains a following (that is, to say, whole producers and labels are dedicated toward making the stuff) outside of its locality of origin
For more hard and fast rules, try this:
1) 20 tracks
2) 10 artists
3) 5 labels
(in other words: enough music for any DJ to at least play an entire set of the stuff)
What does cybertrance sound like, and what differentiates it from other genres? What sounds does it like to employ, what scale does it use, what techniques does it frequently have? Tempo, mode, cadence, percussion, rhythm.......there are no consistent answers yet.
If there is a cohesive form of music that conforms to all of this, and further research indicates that it was a deliberate part of the producers, programmers and songwriters to adopt this style of sound, then I (and everyone else) will conclude that cybertrance does indeed exist. If none of this is true, then the genre really doesn't exist at all and you have been the victim of a well-played and earnest marketing hoax.
I've heard everything from System F - Out of the Blue to Oliver Lieb - Electric Blue to Dream Wave - Lift-off to Gouryella - Gouryella called cybertrance at one point or another. So currently the status of the existence of the genre is dubious at best. At the most, it just seems like a callous and overzealous mistake made by an ignorant and isolated community of Cali kids who weren't aware that the music had a name in the first place. That tends to happen a lot.
Cali kids seem to be the most clueless electronic music consumers in the world. Witness also the DJ Mystik fiasco. |
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