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The Real Deal on the Sponsorship Scandal?? (pg. 5)
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| DJ_Elyot |
I don't like the conservatives much... Stephen Harper seems very right-wing, very close to big business, and in favour of a lot of harsh social changes. I know they're trying to make their party appeal to more centrist Canadian views, but I still don't think they'll do well as a national government.
Personally, I like the NDP as a way of tempering the liberals. I think the gov't would function pretty well if the liberals had a minority but liberals + NDP was more than half. Even if the conservatives win, I don't care as long as liberals + NDP is more than half. If the conservatives get elected and conservatives + bloc gets more than 50% of the seats, then there will be a lot of big changes. |
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| Jayx1 |
The conservatives have the best chance of forming the next government. The NDP will never rule this land and if they do i might as well just sign my paycheques over to them in full.
On the plus side, at least the NDP would be more upfront about taking my money as opposed to the liberals. |
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| baystreetboi |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ_Elyot
I don't like the conservatives much... Stephen Harper seems very right-wing, very close to big business, and in favour of a lot of harsh social changes. I know they're trying to make their party appeal to more centrist Canadian views, but I still don't think they'll do well as a national government.
Personally, I like the NDP as a way of tempering the liberals. I think the gov't would function pretty well if the liberals had a minority but liberals + NDP was more than half. Even if the conservatives win, I don't care as long as liberals + NDP is more than half. If the conservatives get elected and conservatives + bloc gets more than 50% of the seats, then there will be a lot of big changes. |
It's actually the Liberals that are close to big business... take a look at top donations from the past and you'll see major corporations primarily contribute to the Liberals. In 2003, of the top 100 corporate donations to political parties in Canada, they went to the parties as follows:
Liberals: 84
PC / Reform: 14
Green Party: 1
NDP: 1
(By the way, the Liberals received the top 18 of those 100 donations). |
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| amb_ |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
well it cant get much worse. |
Haha... That's the same logic that dumped Mr. Eves' PCs and elected Dalton McGuinty's Liberals in Ontario. |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by amb_
Haha... That's the same logic that dumped Mr. Eves' PCs and elected Dalton McGuinty's Liberals in Ontario. |
Yeah but the difference was that people were too blind to see that the PCs were actually doing a decent job. Not a perfect job but a decent one. If anybody had done their research they would have seen (like i did) what a slimeball mcguinty really was.
I knew this guy would be trouble but i didnt realize how much and how fast it would happen. |
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| Jayx1 |
Even bigger news from the Gomery Inquiry today....
Oh man i cant wait until this is made public...
FRY LIBERALS FRY!! ( i wish i could say more in public but this is a communist country remember) |
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| dEsidEL |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
Even bigger news from the Gomery Inquiry today....
Oh man i cant wait until this is made public...
FRY LIBERALS FRY!! ( i wish i could say more in public but this is a communist country remember) |
pm me the info ..
i can't stand censorship ..
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| amb_ |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
Yeah but the difference was that people were too blind to see that the PCs were actually doing a decent job. Not a perfect job but a decent one. If anybody had done their research they would have seen (like i did) what a slimeball mcguinty really was.
I knew this guy would be trouble but i didnt realize how much and how fast it would happen. |
Eves was just as big of a slimeball.
I'm very excited about Tory and the direction he's taking the party. |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by amb_
Eves was just as big of a slimeball.
I'm very excited about Tory and the direction he's taking the party. |
Eves was definately not the best leader but still better than the other choices at the time. Lets hope Tory can get us back on track of waste cutting, debt control and lower taxes. |
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| DJ_Elyot |
| quote: | Originally posted by ShadoWolf
http://strategis.ic.gc.ca/epic/inte...n/oe01455e.html
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look at Paul Martin's disclosures... it's a who's who of corporate Canada, esp. in the later disclosures
also:
Note: most of the corporate contributions were from the PC side
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I've seen these before and acknowledge them. There are just a lot of things that the conservatives are proposing to do that has the potential to screw me. Most of it is provincial stuff (healthcare espcially because I'm a diabetic and hence rely a lot on the public system), but I'm also concerned about the federal conservatives' unwillingness to support things like Kyoto because of the interests of Canadian business.
The Liberals and Conservatives both seemed too concerned with economic growth instead of stability. And the conservatives opinions on social issues (gay marriage, etc) are just wrong IMO. I've always been in favour of the NDP for their clear-cut social policies and good environmental policies as well. |
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| Jayx1 |
| The NDP has good intentions but they will enevitably make us all poorer in the end. ANd poor people dont care about things like the environment and being nice to people. They care about jobs and money. |
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