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Oakenfold - Tranceport (pg. 4)
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| xstalkrx |
hold on...i thought the mixing in Tranceport was really really good. I didn't think mixing could get much better than that.
maybe i just havent been exposed to enough material? But I was listening for mixing, and thought it was near flawless. |
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| Sykonee |
Listen and learn, xstalkrx.;) |
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| kush paintings |
| In my humble opinion, Oakenfolds mixing on cds (which is what we are talking about here) is good enough to ge tthe job done, nothing more. There aren't any mismatched beats, the tunes flow pretty smoothly, especially on tranceport and another world. However, after you listen to guys even big guys like Sasha and Digweed, I think you realize how uninventive Oakenfold's mixing is. His track selection has always been good, but in that sense he has always been a one dimensional dj. Back to the point of this thread, though I think if you liked Tranceport although you might not listen to another cd that you might attach the same meaning too you should explore further. Residence at Cream is a great place to start, I suggest Great Wall (moreso disc 2), and then maybe move onto Tiesto and get further and further into it. Once again, just my opinion, not facts. |
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| xstalkrx |
Actually Tiesto and Quicksilver got me into the scene. However, I was attracted towards the "cheese" side of Tiesto. (example: live @ energy 2000, traffic, etc.)
Sparkles is cool too, though I dont think it is cheese.
Anyways, I'm now giving his older comps a listen. Such as Magik, and In Search of Sunrise. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by xstalkrx
hold on...i thought the mixing in Tranceport was really really good. I didn't think mixing could get much better than that.
maybe i just havent been exposed to enough material? But I was listening for mixing, and thought it was near flawless. |
Oakey mixes the intros and outros of practically every track. This means he is mixing the simplest part of each track. Now, beatmatching is hard, but Oakey makes it a lot easier on himself by basically mixing percussion- removing most of the skill of mixing. You basically have every track stitched togethor over a couple of bars- no imagination or effort. Its only one step up from starting the tracks one after each other without any mixing. |
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| sandstorm03 |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Oakey mixes the intros and outros of practically every track. This means he is mixing the simplest part of each track. Now, beatmatching is hard, but Oakey makes it a lot easier on himself by basically mixing percussion- removing most of the skill of mixing. You basically have every track stitched togethor over a couple of bars- no imagination or effort. Its only one step up from starting the tracks one after each other without any mixing. |
he doesn't even mix it. He slams most of the levels.
you people dont notice? |
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| sandstorm03 |
| quote: | Originally posted by kush paintings
In my humble opinion, Oakenfolds mixing on cds (which is what we are talking about here) is good enough to ge tthe job done, nothing more. There aren't any mismatched beats, the tunes flow pretty smoothly, especially on tranceport and another world. |
hello i can almost do that... |
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| NiteMer |
| Oakenfold has never been the most technical dj, but he plays good tracks, and he's better than Tiesto, technically, IMO. He, at least, doesn't sloppily slam bass upon bass and come off on as many mixes as Tiesto does. He's pretty good at covering up his mistakes, live, too. Those with an ear will notice, but the average listener won't because he shields his mistakes from his audience. |
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| sandstorm03 |
| quote: | Originally posted by NiteMer
Oakenfold has never been the most technical dj, but he plays good tracks, and he's better than Tiesto, technically, IMO. He, at least, doesn't sloppily slam bass upon bass and come off on as many mixes as Tiesto does. He's pretty good at covering up his mistakes, live, too. Those with an ear will notice, but the average listener won't because he shields his mistakes from his audience. |
Tiesto & Oaki do have things in common, and share many tracks. But their style has obviousely been different over the years. Other then the recent Ultra set that Oaki played. He has never been the Techy, "hard kick", dj that Tiesto has held onto for a while. Tiestos style has always been clashy, so its hard to cover up mistakes... |
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| NiteMer |
| quote: | Originally posted by sandstorm03
Tiesto & Oaki do have things in common, and share many tracks. But their style has obviousely been different over the years. Other then the recent Ultra set that Oaki played. He has never been the Techy, "hard kick", dj that Tiesto has held onto for a while. Tiestos style has always been clashy, so its hard to cover up mistakes... |
Yeah, but he's a straight up fader mixer. His bass is always up too high, IMO, when he brings his mix in, and he's super abrupt. I'm not into abrupt, bass cancelling mixes, even if they're locked on beat. That sound really irritates my ears. You won't hear Sasha or Digweed mixing like that. |
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| sandstorm03 |
| quote: | Originally posted by NiteMer
Yeah, but he's a straight up fader mixer. His bass is always up too high, IMO, when he brings his mix in, and he's super abrupt. I'm not into abrupt, bass cancelling mixes, even if they're locked on beat. That sound really irritates my ears. You won't hear Sasha or Digweed mixing like that. |
Well duh... Thats Tiesto, I don't mind the kick drops. I mean Techno Djs do that all the time. Not that its a good thing or not. When Cox was here he did that every mix. I didn't mind it. It works well in a club(depending on how lazy you are :p).
Anyway about Sasha & Digweed I think they actually do use a few slams. It just sounds different @ 125, and obviousely their levels are done a bit better. |
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| NiteMer |
| quote: | Originally posted by sandstorm03
Well duh... Thats Tiesto, I don't mind the kick drops. I mean Techno Djs do that all the time. Not that its a good thing or not. When Cox was here he did that every mix. I didn't mind it. It works well in a club(depending on how lazy you are :p).
Anyway about Sasha & Digweed I think they actually do use a few slams. It just sounds different @ 125, and obviousely their levels are done a bit better. |
I don't mind bass drops, one bit. I use them, myself, at times. I just don't like when it's full on bass, against full on bass, creating that pop sound of bass cancellation. If the levels are managed appropriately it sounds good, but when they're not, it sounds like (aka Tijs). |
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