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The Absence of Women in Political Discussions (pg. 4)
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| trancaholic |
| quote: | Originally posted by Renegade
I was originally going to laugh at that |
Preposterous! Apparently, I'm throwing my gems for inappreciative pigs here.;)
| quote: | Originally posted by Renegade
but you seem to be onto something. 5 of the last 6 ranking nations on that table are predominantly Catholic (I had to google Liechtenstein, but, sure enough, it's 80% Roman Catholic) and the highest-ranking traditionally Catholic nation there is France, which is predominantly secular these days anyway. I think it's a given that nations with a conservative ethos will be bigger on well-defined gender-roles and the subjugation of women that those with a more progressive ethos and given that Catholicism has an undeniably conservative slant to its philosophies, this may very well explain the lack of women in the parliaments of Catholic nations. |
I like your reasoning supporting my conjecture. When I wrote it I had the dominance of the Catholic Church (i.e. the institution) in mind. The church has clearly been a male-dominated institution, and has been preaching in a most normative manner. In the protestant church, there has been no central guidance, but the bible itself, and local clergymen have been given much freedom in interpreting it. Consequently, the notion that men should be more adept at being in touch with God has been absent from protestantism, and feminism has had more favourable conditions to grow strong.
EDIT: Reading that again, I'm not sure it makes a lot of sense. Long weekend - too little sleep. |
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| occrider |
| I've never seen the forum more active with posts from women than today :conf:. |
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| Renegade |
| quote: | Originally posted by trancaholic
EDIT: Reading that again, I'm not sure it makes a lot of sense. Long weekend - too little sleep. |
Yeah, I know how you feel... :(
But seriously, that made sense. There's an inherent misogeny to most of the more literalistic Christian faiths, but I'm not sure that this is necessarily restricted to Cathololicism. While it's not something that is quite as common in Europe, in Australia and the US most of the more conservative and fundamentalist Christian sects tend to be protestant (i.e. pentacostal, evangelical, baptist, lutheran etc.) rather than Catholic. This is why I said it's nations that have any sort of conservative ethos (which would, generally, include Australia) that lack women in parliament, rather than merely Catholic ones.
| quote: | Originally posted by occrider
I've never seen the forum more active with posts from women than today :conf:. |
Yeah, three. Go PDD! :p |
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| zig |
| I think that nordic countries are renowned for their social systems, and for many decades they have had an advanced level of gender equality, women are treated as individuals with needs and rights of their own, rather than as wives or mothers. They also have had for many decades a well developed support system for working mothers, creches and child minding facilities, that other countries in Europe do not have, and these are all public facilities that are guarenteed for every women if she decides to have children, so it is quite easy to see why nordic countries would have more women participating in the workforce in general and as a result a higher percentage of women involved in politics as well. Rather than as a result of other countries being catholic, but i would accept cultural differences as being a very real part of the problem. |
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| DrUg_Tit0 |
| quote: | Originally posted by occrider
I've never seen the forum more active with posts from women than today :conf:. |
Yeah, what the hell is happening here? It seems like we're starting to loose our male supremacy on this forum! |
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| George Smiley |
| quote: | Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0
Yeah, what the hell is happening here? It seems like we're starting to loose our male supremacy on this forum! |
Yea maybe we should just ignore them and hope they go away? Or failing that, lets just give ourselves far higher wages and hope they realise their lot in life! |
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| squirrelly |
| quote: | Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0
Yeah, what the hell is happening here? It seems like we're starting to loose our male supremacy on this forum! |
Quit your bitching! You are just having a difficult time adjusting to the fact that women are more intelligent than men. :disbelief
As well as adjusting to the fact that we tend to do more with our lives than sit online and bitch about how there's no men online. ;) |
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| Arbiter |
| quote: | Originally posted by occrider
I've never seen the forum more active with posts from women than today :conf:. |
Well most women don't care to talk politics, but they would never pass up an opporunity to talk about themselves. |
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| Renegade |
| quote: | Originally posted by squirrelly
Quit your bitching! You are just having a difficult time adjusting to the fact that women are more intelligent than men. :disbelief |
Interesting you should say that, because this was on the front page of The Australian newspaper today:
| quote: | Girls do better than boys
Kate Legge, Social affairs writer
May 17, 2005
GIRLS interact better than boys at a younger age than first thought and also learn to walk and talk earlier, according to a groundbreaking study that sheds new light on the development of Australian children from infancy through to school age.
Data from a new survey of 10,000 children and their families shows that girls do better than boys on social, educational and physical milestones in the very first year of life - differences that become more pronounced by the time they reach school.
The gender divide influences learning and academic competency, social and emotional skills and physical performance.
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Boys lead girls in every measure of disengagement and psychological disorder from attention deficit syndromes to at-risk social behaviour. The latest neuro-imaging research has identified gender differences in brain maturation, with boys slower to develop impulse control and executive planning skills. |
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.a...255E601,00.html
We're equal, but definitely not the same. :)
Perhaps these inherent neurological differences may explain why the sexes tend to be drawn to different pursuits... |
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| DrUg_Tit0 |
| quote: | Originally posted by squirrelly
Quit your bitching! You are just having a difficult time adjusting to the fact that women are more intelligent than men. :disbelief
As well as adjusting to the fact that we tend to do more with our lives than sit online and bitch about how there's no men online. ;) |
Thank god we're still stronger and can beat you up if you don't obey! :) |
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| Zharen |
| quote: | Originally posted by Nou
Well if you think about the PDD...
not many women that sign up to TA are very smart, most are coke or attention whores, or too young to even know what government is or how it works or what it does or that it even exists.
thats just TA tho. |
You wouldn't be referring to a certain someone who is reknown on here for 8ballin' the Charlie would ya? :rolleyes: :haha: |
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| squirrelly |
| quote: | Originally posted by Arbiter
Well most women don't care to talk politics, but they would never pass up an opporunity to talk about themselves. |
Excuse me! |
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