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just so you all know... armin does this (pg. 2)
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| Nemesis44 |
| quote: | Originally posted by fr3sh
my whole point of this thread is that i was told (even on this board) that when djing, after cueing up the record and then letting go... that is (apparently) the last time i should be touching the record and beatmatching by pitch control strictly |
I think you have missunderstood... :)
As stated by Zizack, I think you will find that Armin doesn't touch the platter during the mix.
Cueing up is something different as it's not audible to another party. Once you let go and fade in etc, no, it's better to ride the pitch. Saying that, I know that Matt Hardwick touches the platter even during the mix and he happens to mix very well.
The process of matching is more a case of 'by any means necessary', i.e. all methods are good except the bad ones.
Learning to ride the pitch will make your beatmatching both quicker and more precise so it's not a bad skill to have.
It also means that your corrections will be more discreet during transition.
During transition I never touch the deck but I will spin my finger on the middle or the record if it needs just a little speed. For the most I ride the pitch.
When cueing up I will tweak the spindle and ride the pitch. If I'm on good form I don't have to, so will be able to ride the pitch the whole time. Depends on mood.
Learn to ride the pitch, it will improve your DJing skills no end. But keep in mind that this forum generates some extreme views and sometimes people speak with no substance to back them up just because it's a popular theory etc.
Simple rule of thumb, if someone says something is better than something else, ask them why. If they can't tell you, the chances are that they themselves don't know and are actually just acting on second hand information possibly from a person who in turn doesn't have a clue either... get the picture? :)
(Not aimed at anyone in particular just a general statment)
That's what pisses me off about these forums sometimes. Not this thread in particular, but there are people out there who will rather trash talk a skill than actually sit down and understand how it can make you a better DJ. Then find your own way to use it.
The same thing happened with Harmonic Mixing, people calling it DJing by numbers and the CDs vs Vinyl thread is just too funny for words sometimes. You can't be a DJ and be narrowminded, you wont be able to read people.
Cheers
Nem |
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| webbie |
I really couldnt care less if a dj no matter which one was pushing the vinyl all night, just make it sound good.
No, i cant match just with the pitch, i match it perfectly in the beginning and if i didnt manage to do that, i push the record. Tada. |
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| Zild |
| I think people are confused here. Riding the pitch is a great skill for a DJ to have but its not the only skill nor is it indicitive of some sort of mastery but I'm fairly sure all professional DJs do know how to ride the pitch whether they rely on the skill or not. I don't understand while some people are so reluctant to even try to learn how to do it. |
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| djsnazzy |
| but why is rideing the pitch so good would someone please tell me? thanks . |
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| Wraith |
| quote: | Originally posted by djsnazzy
but why is rideing the pitch so good would someone please tell me? thanks . |
This is just my take on it, when you've got both records going live and the incoming one starts to drift if you ride the pitch to get it back in the correction will be less noticeable making the whole transition sound better. If you touch the platter you run the risk of overdoing it and making a noticeable pitch change for a sec in the middle of the transition which if you ever heard one sounds like . That being said I don't pitch ride. I should learn to do it, but I can do most of the stuff I need to do with little cranks on the spindle or a light drag on the platter. |
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| Boomer187 |
| quote: | Originally posted by djsnazzy
but why is rideing the pitch so good would someone please tell me? thanks . |
it is a smooth transition to a new speed. If you rub your finger on the side a little too hard you will hear a pitch bend. When you ride the pitch down you don't hear that sudden bend in the pitch.
but you can touch the vinyl and platter and not notice the pitch bend...it jus tdepends on how careful you are.
and always always always consider the source when taking advice from someone online....hell I could have been talking out of my ass here but you would be none the wiser......this means only listen to nemesis :wtf: .....ok not just him, but ya get mah point. |
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| djsnazzy |
| thanks lads, im deffently gona learn this skill now . thanks for the help |
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| Vlad |
| I mix only with the pitch, I dont even think about touching the record... and it usually takes me anywhere from 15-30 seconds to match it. There have been times when I wasnt satisfied with the record I was gonna mix into and 3/4 of the way into the track Ill switch the record and Ill guess the pitch adjustment and beatmatch the incoming record as Im transitioning. :) |
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| Desty Nova |
| touching the record will not fsck up the direct drive mechanism, if you remove the black disk-shaped rubber thingy (that goes under the slipmats) and replace it with the plastic disk shaped sheets you get when you buy the turntables (or you can make them out of wax paper (or so I've been told)0( |
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| Freak |
| quote: | Originally posted by dj_lane
ummmm? Armin uses CDs mostly.
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I worked with him a couple of weeks back - i can assure you this is not the case.
He also tends to ride the pitch in the mix should he need to make a correction.
As for touching it while cueing- well- when cueing up, I use my on the platter as its better. But then noone can hear it so it makes NO ING DIFFERENCE
Each to their own- use whatever YOU feel like using and whatever YOU are comfortable doing.
Bottom line:
WHO GIVES A ???
Tiesto uses andrex triple ply toilet paper too (its on his rider)- so you can all rush out and stock up on it now.
Far far far more important things in the world of djing than beatmatching to worry about. |
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| ESMdjm600 |
| exactly.... just to reinforce wat someone else said, he bends with the platter when hes tryin to get his beats matched, he doesnt ride the pitch in order to get his beats matched, but once he throws that fader up he dont bitch bend, he rides the bitch |
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| DJ RJT |
| quote: | Originally posted by Freak
I worked with him a couple of weeks back - i can assure you this is not the case.
He also tends to ride the pitch in the mix should he need to make a correction.
As for touching it while cueing- well- when cueing up, I use my on the platter as its better. But then noone can hear it so it makes NO ING DIFFERENCE
Each to their own- use whatever YOU feel like using and whatever YOU are comfortable doing.
Bottom line:
WHO GIVES A ???
Tiesto uses andrex triple ply toilet paper too (its on his rider)- so you can all rush out and stock up on it now.
Far far far more important things in the world of djing than beatmatching to worry about. |
Man, I love it when Freak just breaks it down... +1 M8, you said it all.... |
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