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just so you all know... armin does this (pg. 3)
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| shades_of_gray |
| well whatever works, ride the pitch or touch the platter, or both.....so long as those beats are locked on time....is all that matters...... |
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| Dervish |
| quote: | Originally posted by Omega_Blue
meh. rides the pitch, don't ride the pitch. if you can mix well flawlessly that should be all that matters. |
Exactly (maybe a skill to have but I say whatever floats your boat).
EDIT: Opps think I missed the whole second page before, didn't see everyone elses posts on this. |
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| Rhue |
| quote: | Originally posted by Nemesis44
I think you have missunderstood... :)
As stated by Zizack, I think you will find that Armin doesn't touch the platter during the mix.
Cueing up is something different as it's not audible to another party. Once you let go and fade in etc, no, it's better to ride the pitch. Saying that, I know that Matt Hardwick touches the platter even during the mix and he happens to mix very well.
The process of matching is more a case of 'by any means necessary', i.e. all methods are good except the bad ones.
Learning to ride the pitch will make your beatmatching both quicker and more precise so it's not a bad skill to have.
It also means that your corrections will be more discreet during transition.
During transition I never touch the deck but I will spin my finger on the middle or the record if it needs just a little speed. For the most I ride the pitch.
When cueing up I will tweak the spindle and ride the pitch. If I'm on good form I don't have to, so will be able to ride the pitch the whole time. Depends on mood.
Learn to ride the pitch, it will improve your DJing skills no end. But keep in mind that this forum generates some extreme views and sometimes people speak with no substance to back them up just because it's a popular theory etc.
Simple rule of thumb, if someone says something is better than something else, ask them why. If they can't tell you, the chances are that they themselves don't know and are actually just acting on second hand information possibly from a person who in turn doesn't have a clue either... get the picture? :)
(Not aimed at anyone in particular just a general statment)
That's what pisses me off about these forums sometimes. Not this thread in particular, but there are people out there who will rather trash talk a skill than actually sit down and understand how it can make you a better DJ. Then find your own way to use it.
The same thing happened with Harmonic Mixing, people calling it DJing by numbers and the CDs vs Vinyl thread is just too funny for words sometimes. You can't be a DJ and be narrowminded, you wont be able to read people.
Cheers
Nem |
Amen... A sensible post after a long time :D |
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| KiNeTiC ENeRgY |
| stupid thread...who cares how u cue the record or correct it when mixing...I'll kick the vinyl if need be to make a correction...u won't hear it if u are somewhat decent and smooth. Riding the pitch doesn't make u any better or worse:whip: |
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| fr3sh |
| quote: | Originally posted by Vlad
I mix only with the pitch, I dont even think about touching the record... |
when i started spinning this is exactly the kind of advice i was given on TA, and not that there is anything wrong with it... there was definitely an overwhelming amount of support for the above method
and that is why i started this thread referencing a credible dj who does not do the above (ie. never touch the record) |
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| zizack |
| quote: | Originally posted by KiNeTiC ENeRgY
stupid thread...who cares how u cue the record or correct it when mixing...I'll kick the vinyl if need be to make a correction...u won't hear it if u are somewhat decent and smooth. Riding the pitch doesn't make u any better or worse:whip: |
eh, I think mastering how to ride the pitch to make minor changes during a mix really does make you a better DJ. DJs do it because when done correctly it really is a smoother, less noticable way to fix a beatmatch live. |
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| Exodus17 |
what was that brand you said? andrex? you wouldnt happen to know of any wholesale dealers would you:D
i hear he takes a mad dump before each set...tripple ply eh? hmmm:tongue3
anyways yeah... i touch the record when mixing:o works for me |
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| Omega_Blue |
| quote: | Originally posted by Freak
Tiesto uses andrex triple ply toilet paper too (its on his rider)- so you can all rush out and stock up on it now.
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| eyeball_2003 |
ok being fairly new to DJ'ing i have to say that touching the plater and tweaking the spindle is the easiest method.....however it sounds terrible! iv recorded most of my mixes from when i first started to now and can tell when iv touched the platter or tweaked the spindle...
now conversly....
riding the pitch is the best skill a dj can have (IMHO) if you can do this well all your mixes (providing track selection is good) sound flawless, i amaze myself sometimes especially when comparing a pitch ridden transition with a platter touching one. lol.
anyway point being learn to the ride the pitch! you will not regret it!
thanks |
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| dj_lane |
| quote: | Originally posted by eyeball_2003
ok being fairly new to DJ'ing i have to say that touching the plater and tweaking the spindle is the easiest method.....however it sounds terrible! iv recorded most of my mixes from when i first started to now and can tell when iv touched the platter or tweaked the spindle...
now conversly....
riding the pitch is the best skill a dj can have (IMHO) if you can do this well all your mixes (providing track selection is good) sound flawless, i amaze myself sometimes especially when comparing a pitch ridden transition with a platter touching one. lol.
anyway point being learn to the ride the pitch! you will not regret it!
thanks |
I agree, however if youve got a mix thats horribly off, pushin' the vinyl is the best quick fix :D |
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| fr3sh |
| quote: | Originally posted by dj_lane
I agree, however if youve got a mix thats horribly off, pushin' the vinyl is the best quick fix :D |
i agree with that b/c the pitch takes time to adjust itself... has a little bit of lag |
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| visje |
| i did notice that it is possible correcting with platter with out hearing it, of course this is not possible with women singing or long strings for example... |
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