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FASTDJMP3
quote:
Originally posted by Hell_Copter


the brits gave them an opportunity to get independence but in a smaller country than they'd wanted
it's their problen and not ours the didn't take it



that's very funny man , centuries and centuries ago the arabs were living in peace there , but then the brits came and occupied the place , instead of giving them 100% of the occupied land after the independance (just like they did with the other occupied countries) , they proposed only a small part ... do u think ANYONE else including the arabs would accept that ? don't be idiot man ...
DJ_BoN
quote:
Originally posted by FASTDJMP3



that's very funny man , centuries and centuries ago the arabs were living in peace there , but then the brits came and occupied the place , instead of giving them 100% of the occupied land after the independance (just like they did with the other occupied countries) , they proposed only a small part ... do u think ANYONE else including the arabs would accept that ? don't be idiot man ...


well i don't get it, is your problem with the israelies or with the brits?.. after all, we are NOT the brits..
besides you say that the arabs were there for centuries, that's right, but we were there for a lot more time BEFORE they came and threw us out!
I feel sorry for you if that's your knowledge in world history... :D
Gil Shwarts
quote:
Originally posted by DJ_BoN


well i don't get it, is your problem with the israelies or with the brits?.. after all, we are NOT the brits..
besides you say that the arabs were there for centuries, that's right, but we were there for a lot more time BEFORE they came and threw us out!
I feel sorry for you if that's your knowledge in world history... :D


lol
I totally agree man!!! :)
FASTDJMP3
haha once again u r very funny :stongue:

all the dudes in israel are mostly russians or east-europeans , please don't tell me the russians or the east-europeans used to live in the middle-east , you are then going to be funny for the third time in a row :D and i know history and geography better than u think :cool:
Gil Shwarts
Dude,
You come in here with an attitude and expect us to shut up about it?
I don't think so, and if you disagree with what we're saying, you can always LEAVE!


And 2nd thing, I suggest you take a look at your history books again and again and maybe learn how to READ!

Jewish people were on this land centuries before the arabs so just shut up about it coz you are arguing about something you're wrong at!
FASTDJMP3
quote:
Originally posted by Gil Shwarts
Dude,
You come in here with an attitude and expect us to shut up about it?
I don't think so, and if you disagree with what we're saying, you can always LEAVE!


And 2nd thing, I suggest you take a look at your history books again and again and maybe learn how to READ!

Jewish people were on this land centuries before the arabs so just shut up about it coz you are arguing about something you're wrong at!



:rolleyes:

Whatever
TranceGiant
FastDjmp3, i think we already had this discussion, didnt we?
Your mistake is that u are basing your whole argumentation and attitude towards the conflict on the picture of the "european jews stealing arab land" ..fairy tale, i mean.
if u think we came there once upon a time, drove arabs out and proclaimed israel u couldnt be wronger.
so i suggest you to firstly correct THAT and afterwards discuss the situation nowadays, the occupation and the solutions to the problem.
Hell_Copter
quote:
Originally posted by FASTDJMP3



:rolleyes:

Whatever


i totally agree with them!!
all of this is true
we prooved u wrong because we were here before anyone else
we own this land for the right reasons and not because we took it from the arabs
FASTDJMP3
quote:
Originally posted by Hell_Copter


i totally agree with them!!
all of this is true
we prooved u wrong because we were here before anyone else
we own this land for the right reasons and not because we took it from the arabs



for what reasons ? :rolleyes:
TranceGiant
Id like to avoid this "we were there before" argument since its irrelevant for politics.
Imagina the Indians conquering Manhattan saying the same?
Its just that the whole process of land-building, the building of first settlements, the Purchasing of land by arab farmers etc. etc. was totally legal, till arab nationalists flipped out and wanted their arab sovereign empire, including the area of Plestine, a land never belonged to arabs before.
Yes they lived there, but so did a small jewish minority. Both have a right on independence and an own state, with one difference: while the jews were ready to share, the arabs wanted it all. And they didnt have NOTHING in fact! never belonged to arabs politically..
and whos there to cry about the building of Jordan or Lebanon? also created by the British and French.
That whole "its unfair, u took us our land away" philosophy is actually based on facistic intolerance on the arab side.
While Israel is offering the Palestinians their own state, the Arab countires, hypocrite as they are, fight Israel in order to erase it and on the other hand doesnt give a about whats happening to the vicitms - the Palestinians. (letting the refugees live like animals in their countirs, not allowing them to work etc. etc.)

So dont YOU teach us lessons concerning humanite...

Flotser
TranceGiant finally said something smart!

i would like to add something...
The israeli teretory was never an arab teretory. some arabs traveled here and setteled here but mostly for economic reasons... also the jewish minority that was living here on israel was succesful at land-work etc. and that atracted more arabs to come to israel and work for the jewish people....

The time went by...israel was under the Turkish auturity, then by british... and both nations (israeli, and arab) setteled here in israel. But also other things happened here ... arabs started attacking israeli villiges time after time and the british also did't know what to do with that. so the jewish settelments had to oraginize a group of gaurds that would protect the settelments from the arabs attacks (no way opposite) ... there also was that "Balfur" agreement with britain that promised the jewish a country in israel. then also came the second world war and the Holucost with it... over6,000,000!!!! jews were killed by the nazis and their alies...the jewish had no other place to go to! can't u ing understand that. no other place will fit for the jewish because of the antesemisim! Then the UN decided to devide Israel into two countries: Israel and Palestine. both israelis and arabs wanted the whole land but all the israelis were realy pleased and went out to party (with Infected Mushroom & Yahel ;) ). so what happend on the day supposed to be the start of the countries.??? all arabs togerter , the palestinians and other 5 big arabs armies attacked israel from all sides. israel won.... so now who has the real right to live here???? they opened in a war..they didn;t want the UN disecision. they wanted a decision by war. we won. then they attacked us in other opportunities and wars. we won. we want peace. they want to kill us. does that have any sense?? no. so please get rid of the Terorist and killer Arafat he does all the trouble now, maybe that would help a little.

and u all guys should daily read:

www.debka.com
Hell_Copter
quote:
Originally posted by Flotser
TranceGiant finally said something smart!

i would like to add something...
The israeli teretory was never an arab teretory. some arabs traveled here and setteled here but mostly for economic reasons... also the jewish minority that was living here on israel was succesful at land-work etc. and that atracted more arabs to come to israel and work for the jewish people....

The time went by...israel was under the Turkish auturity, then by british... and both nations (israeli, and arab) setteled here in israel. But also other things happened here ... arabs started attacking israeli villiges time after time and the british also did't know what to do with that. so the jewish settelments had to oraginize a group of gaurds that would protect the settelments from the arabs attacks (no way opposite) ... there also was that "Balfur" agreement with britain that promised the jewish a country in israel. then also came the second world war and the Holucost with it... over6,000,000!!!! jews were killed by the nazis and their alies...the jewish had no other place to go to! can't u ing understand that. no other place will fit for the jewish because of the antesemisim! Then the UN decided to devide Israel into two countries: Israel and Palestine. both israelis and arabs wanted the whole land but all the israelis were realy pleased and went out to party (with Infected Mushroom & Yahel ;) ). so what happend on the day supposed to be the start of the countries.??? all arabs togerter , the palestinians and other 5 big arabs armies attacked israel from all sides. israel won.... so now who has the real right to live here???? they opened in a war..they didn;t want the UN disecision. they wanted a decision by war. we won. then they attacked us in other opportunities and wars. we won. we want peace. they want to kill us. does that have any sense?? no. so please get rid of the Terorist and killer Arafat he does all the trouble now, maybe that would help a little.

and u all guys should daily read:

www.debka.com


way to go man
u said some nice thing here and i agree with u!!!
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