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| WinterWave |
| nice idea, the dj booth sits in a pyramid and ontop of the pyramid are powerful green, blue and red lasers and then during breakdowns, You can make some lightshows :D this would be an awesome booth to play in imo ;) |
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| Spirit5 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Nic
what were you planning to show on these imax like screens?
"A typical IMAX film's production costs fall somewhere in the range of $3 million to $8 million for a 2-D feature, and $8 million to $15 million for 3-D"
movie screens might be a better idea :P |
Not just movie screens though, something that is 3-D. I know it will be expensive, but in another 10 to 15 years who knows what kind of technology will be around? I wouldn't be doing this alone, so i'll need lots of people to help with maintaing the place and financing it. On the screens in the mainfloor, I picture CGI imagery that is a bit abstract in nature. Pulsating orbs flying around a screen (seemingly popping up also on the floor, as projected in a 3-D light show of sorts), images of some alien planet, images of space (like flying through space), images of nature (perhaps in the other rooms, as they would be of a more peaceful..chill out nature than the mainfloor would be), spiritual imagery and much more. It would be a similar similar to the visuals in Windows Media Center, or Winamp or other programs, except a lot more interesting because they would change, and would be alot more real.
At the rate technology is going, like I said, I am sure in 10 to 15 years there will be technology that would, I hope, make the clubbing experiencing more than just going out, partying, drinking, seeing ladies dancing on tables etc. As this is all apart of the club scene, I feel there has got to be something more to it. In truth, I would push for a more progressive club scene, where the vibe is more spiritual (not religious as in Church stuff, no), and is constantly pushing the boundaries of experience. I'm in college now and am working towards a career in psychology, so putting some psychology, philosophy and even physics type stuff into this experience would be cool.
So all in all it wouldn't be just a nightclub, but in a sense a true escape from reality (like a natural high, a retreat center) brought on by the music and the experience as a whole. I know I would need some experience working at a club eventually, since It is my goal to DJ somewhere in a year or two. I'm only 19, approaching 20, so I have a while. Right now I'm just dreaming (I like to dream...hehe) |
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| Spirit5 |
Also to note, since the music we like (trance, progressive, techno, house, or any other EDM of sorts) is by nature..pushing the boundaries..progressive or spiritual (a lot of uplifting and progressive trance is in my opinion) or whatever you want to think of it, I still feel the scene needs to be just as progressive as well. I mean maybe there are some really neat clubs with some new ideas other than just the traditional club experience. If there are some really neat clubs out there that I am not aware of, please let me know. Thanks.
PS. I am not talking about Christian-religious nightclubs that I have read about. I don't mean spiritual in that sense, but spiritual as a vibe, that doesn't really owe itself to any one religion or spiritual path. Something that is ethereal or heavenly, an escape from reality for a little while or a spiritual journey of sorts. The place doesn't need to be a pyramid either, but I thought the pyramid shape works because of its symbolic appearance and the spiritual-temple like atmosphere of the place. |
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| Dervish |
Right not to be gay about it but....
1) How are people going to get to this? (If you run buses what happens if there is trouble on the buses? Given that you'll need to get a company to do it unless you buy and run your own)
2) To support an investment like that you'd need to have high utilisation. That is not only be making money once a week but through the week given the location? Unless you pass that onto the client which when coupled with the presence of compition closer would be hard IMHO.
3) Where is the money for it going to come from? If loans this is another cost to be passed onto the clients (clubbers). If people they will want a say in how the business is run are you ready for that?
4) You do realise that for the first year atleast probebly you will be loseing money hand over fist most likely and with such a specific and focused enviroment (the club building I mean) retasking or diversifying would be impossible. |
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| Spirit5 |
1. People would get to this most likely by driving. It wont be that far from an urban or suburban area. I mean there are some more rurual areas where I live by, however they aren't that far from civilization. This wont be somewhere out in the boonies, but would not be appropriate for urban or suburban areas.
2. If this were to happen it would be a joint adventure. It's not something I will be just setting up in a year. It will be an investment that will need support from my collegues and friends. This is like i have said, 15 years at least down the line, even 20 perhaps. There would be plenty of advertising for it and word of mouth at first and from there..who knows. I'm no marketing expert but to do this would require hiring some marketing specialists. There really wouldn't be competition because it wont just be a nightclub, and it wont be like every other nightclub. I am only going on 20, so I have years and years to think about it, this is just initial thoughts.
3. Like I said in "2" it would come jointly. Some loans sure, people would help fund it, if I am making enough money it would help (and I do hope to make a decent amount as a psychologist, writer, lecturer and perhaps teacher and DJ). An adventure like this would take years to finance, years to make, but in the long run, it might pay off. No rush to create it.
4. Really this place would be about diversity, it wouldn't just be so narrowly focused. I mean it would allow for creativity, varied styles of music (after all each room would have a different style of music, different DJs would come to it) and it would inspire people to reflect and to escape. A lot of people talk about the music helping them, letting go at clubs or events and forgetting all the stressors of life. This club would allow this, it would just take it to the next level. Like i've said it wouldn't just be a nightclub, it would be like a huge retreat center, with the nightclub being one of its many spectacles. |
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| jdat |
| quote: | Originally posted by jdat
So true
but Ps: Spirit5
I have come here to present you something you may not know.
This here is the Enter key. Please become accustomed to it. And use it plentifully
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Spirit 5 are you dense?
If you don't use the Enter key I refuse to read your posts. It's quite a joke the way you post you must be taking the piss.
I have plenty of advice to give you on the matter but I'm not going to be helpful one single bit if you're not being more readable.
 
I also advise you to visit as many cities/clubs as possible but at your young age it's difficult. |
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| Spirit5 |
| What does pressing the Enter key have to do with this? What do you mean? |
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| Dervish |
Just cos you didn't use any paragraphs in the first post :tongue2
Don't get me wrong to set up a thing like this you need to see the pluses more than the negatives otherwise no-one would set anything up.
It's just in my head I have a long term plan kinda like yours but on a way smaller scale.
It involves years of club nights (hard enough on their own) and using an existing building.
Your idea would make an excelent club (the whole driving to it thing confuses me wouldn't people be getting drunk at it, and who wants to be the designated no matter how ace the club?) but not an excelent business. Which is what a club has to be unless you plan bank rolling other peoples clubbing experiance.
I understand these are just your inital thoughts, but take into consideration the level of investment required your talking tens of millions here (a small local pub in my home town cost £1million or $2mil just to get renovated nevermind a custom build).
To get that kind of money from a bank (people just can't afford that) you need a trackrecord and an inital amount of money of your own to put up too (usually half here, plus they are uptight as hell with that).
Not to mention an superb business plan which I think when your writing you'll realise a huge purpose built out of town club doesn't work.
Maybe though building smaller clubs to start with or something you could but you definatly will not be building any clubs "part-time".
You need serious and high level experiance to get the money you would need. |
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| Spirit5 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dervish
Just cos you didn't use any paragraphs in the first post :tongue2
Don't get me wrong to set up a thing like this you need to see the pluses more than the negatives otherwise no-one would set anything up.
It's just in my head I have a long term plan kinda like yours but on a way smaller scale.
It involves years of club nights (hard enough on their own) and using an existing building.
Your idea would make an excelent club (the whole driving to it thing confuses me wouldn't people be getting drunk at it, and who wants to be the designated no matter how ace the club?) but not an excelent business. Which is what a club has to be unless you plan bank rolling other peoples clubbing experiance.
I understand these are just your inital thoughts, but take into consideration the level of investment required your talking tens of millions here (a small local pub in my home town cost £1million or $2mil just to get renovated nevermind a custom build).
To get that kind of money from a bank (people just can't afford that) you need a trackrecord and an inital amount of money of your own to put up too (usually half here, plus they are uptight as hell with that).
Not to mention an superb business plan which I think when your writing you'll realise a huge purpose built out of town club doesn't work.
Maybe though building smaller clubs to start with or something you could but you definatly will not be building any clubs "part-time".
You need serious and high level experiance to get the money you would need. |
Thanks for the input Dervish. Yeah the place would have to start off small. Maybe even this whole event idea could first take place not as an actual club, but at clubs. I mean i've been thinking about it today and this could start off as a new kind of club scene, a progressive club scene. I will admit not having been to many clubs in my life, but as I get older I will have more connections so I can go to more (it sucks going alone...I need a girlfriend lol, or some friends that like this music). I'm not dissing the club scene or saying all clubs suck, that would be ignorant.
What I am saying is that just as the music is progressive in nature, the scene needs to grow as well. The scene needs to compliment the music it is trying to promote, by being just that...progressive. It would be cool to have a scene that is more youthful, communal and spiritual in nature. This would not be as overtent as the rave scene was, but it would definintely have a more youthful and spiritual vibe. I mean you can't ignore the power of the music. I've been into it since I was 13. Although I go to a catholic church, I don't really perscribe to any one set of religious or spiritual beliefs (long story, have to get to know me to really understand). The ethereal and spiritual nature of this music is one of the reasons I got into it, after listening to stuff like Enigma, Delerium, most Moby (some of his stuff is definitely not of that nature), early Paul Oakenfold sets, BT, PvD etc etc. Now after hearing CDs, DJ sets and music since 2001 from Tiesto, Armin, Corsten, Steve Helstrip, Above & Beyond etc etc, i've felt the whole vibe grow even more. This stuff may sound like I'm smoking something or really weird, however this is what I've felt for years. I have neglected all these years to sign up for this forum and hopefully more people share my sentiment. Thanks.
On the drunk thing, not sure how to work that out lol, other than maybe buses or whatever. Like i've said this is years in the making, it's just something i'm interesting in getting input from people like you on it now. I have not worked out the specifics, considering i'm only brainstorming about it.
If anyone on this forum knows of clubs that I might like that have a more communal, spiritual and youthful vibe, please let me know. Thanks. |
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| Omega_Blue |
| how about this. a club... that's on the outside ... and inside , they'll be all these outdoor stuff.. like stop signs and fire hydrants and stuff. |
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| Spirit5 |
| Haha sounds good however I think there was something like this done already. It could have either been a resturaunt or a club, but I do recall hearing about it. |
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| Omega_Blue |
| lol it's from a night at the roxbury i think |
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