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so what do you guys do to save CPU? (pg. 5)
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| kooma |
| quote: | Originally posted by hardikaveri
when your pc is standard pc you loose ability to automatic power off.. so you muts press the power button the end of cpu's shutdown |
not if u turn on APM from Power Options
Also everyone make sure your Processor Scheduling is set to Backround Services |
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| dj jasonF |
ah... hve you guys seen this?? i just got CM http://www.fx-max.com/fxt/product.html#download
ill try it in my 1,8ghz laptop, 2,8 master and an old 1G p3 setup and probably post the results. :D looks promising for those that have more than 1 PC. |
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| dj_alfi |
| i dont do anything... my 3,2 prescott can run ANYTHING!!! |
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| kopi_luwak |
I render usually the CPU whore vstis to wavs, and in extreme cases the whole track, and I begin to add more sounds, etc, works fine :).
PS.S A millionairie reply would be, I buy a powerful Pc :P.
Kopi =o. |
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| Magnus |
| quote: | Originally posted by dj jasonF
ah... hve you guys seen this?? i just got CM http://www.fx-max.com/fxt/product.html#download
ill try it in my 1,8ghz laptop, 2,8 master and an old 1G p3 setup and probably post the results. :D looks promising for those that have more than 1 PC. |
I just read through this entire thread and was surprised nobody had mentioned FX Teleport. Glad you found it JasonF. If you have more than 1 computer, this can be the answer to all your CPU maxing issues. For those that don't know what it is, its like VSTSystem link, only it works through your LAN rather than through an optical cable. Any VSTi you choose can run on your 2nd (slave) computer, while keeping your CPU on your main computer free to run more VSTis, etc...
Once its up and running, it works like this. In Cubase, you hit F11 to bring up your VSTi instrument panel. When you go to select an instrument, you have a choice called FX Teleport. Underneath of this category, is any VSTi that you have setup on your slave computer. I run Battery, Z3Gta, and Vanguard instances on the slave computer. The only suck thing is, you have to edit the VSTi on the slave computer. However, if you have dual screen and a 2nd mouse, you can move the VSTi panel to the 2nd monitor of the slave computer and use a switch box to switch back and forth. Once you are on your master computer, you can use the 2nd mouse to control the VSTi panel on the slave computer's 2nd monitor without having to use the switchbox to move back and forth. Give the demo a try if you haven't already. |
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| Speactra |
For those who only have one computer, simply run "msconfig" and choose "autostart" , then you only need to deactivate all that background programs you doesn't knew you had! :thepirate
I can't wait for Live 5! I hope it's freeze function would do a miracle! :tongue2 |
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| dj jasonF |
| quote: | Originally posted by Magnus
I just read through this entire thread and was surprised nobody had mentioned FX Teleport. Glad you found it JasonF. If you have more than 1 computer, this can be the answer to all your CPU maxing issues. For those that don't know what it is, its like VSTSystem link, only it works through your LAN rather than through an optical cable. Any VSTi you choose can run on your 2nd (slave) computer, while keeping your CPU on your main computer free to run more VSTis, etc...
Once its up and running, it works like this. In Cubase, you hit F11 to bring up your VSTi instrument panel. When you go to select an instrument, you have a choice called FX Teleport. Underneath of this category, is any VSTi that you have setup on your slave computer. I run Battery, Z3Gta, and Vanguard instances on the slave computer. The only suck thing is, you have to edit the VSTi on the slave computer. However, if you have dual screen and a 2nd mouse, you can move the VSTi panel to the 2nd monitor of the slave computer and use a switch box to switch back and forth. Once you are on your master computer, you can use the 2nd mouse to control the VSTi panel on the slave computer's 2nd monitor without having to use the switchbox to move back and forth. Give the demo a try if you haven't already. |
yea thats it.. i have a second monitor for the first slavew and the master and a laptop. but i wonder.. is the regular lan connection speed good enough for something like this? only one way to find out.. hehe |
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| jammer42777 |
if you have anouther PC, with a free midi IN, and a free midi out on your current machine, you could load some of the other VSTi's on the second PC (and record them to wave when it's time to make your final mix), bascially using your second PC like a synth.
Anyways,
good luck! |
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| dEEkAy |
| quote: | Originally posted by dj jasonF
even with a very good computer its almost imposible to make a 10min track with vstis only. |
It is possible. I'm running about 11-14 VSTs (including "blockbusters" like Korg Legacy) including 10-12 FX and about 5-10 Audio Tracks in realtime.
If using totally unoptimized stuff like z3ta (which is crap -> too cheesy and wavetable based) I'm bouncing it down as WAV and reimport it.
Anyway, CPU is Athlon 64 3500+ and 2 gigs of DDR400 RAM in Dual Channel Mode. |
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| mysticalninja |
just disabling things from starting up in msconfig is noob. get that off ur hd and our of ur registry son.
BTW - There is such a huge preformace difference from SX2 to SX3.. I havent crashed or lagged once since I upgraded. |
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| DigiNut |
| quote: | Originally posted by dEEkAy
It is possible. I'm running about 11-14 VSTs (including "blockbusters" like Korg Legacy) including 10-12 FX and about 5-10 Audio Tracks in realtime.
If using totally unoptimized stuff like z3ta (which is crap -> too cheesy and wavetable based) I'm bouncing it down as WAV and reimport it.
Anyway, CPU is Athlon 64 3500+ and 2 gigs of DDR400 RAM in Dual Channel Mode. |
Don't agree with that comment about z3ta+. It's heavily optimized aside from some of the built-in effects (like reverb), cheesiness is going to be directly related to the patches you use, and EVERY synth is wavetable based (the only other kind of instrument is a sampled one).
Anyway, if you're able to handle all that on your CPU then great. I've got the exact same hardware config as you (3200+, otherwise same, and I've got the uber-expensive enhanced latency memory) and my CPU load is something like:
- 20% on 5 impulse reverb channels
- 5% on 1 "massive" reverb channel (for long fx)
- 5% on noise filters (below 20 Hz and above 20 kHz) on ALL channels, probably about 20-30 filters in total
- 10% on at least 10 compressors
- 10% on various types of modulation (phasers, flangers, chorus, etc.) on at least 4 or 5 channels
- 10% on master plugins like Ozone
So that's 60% right there just on fx. Take into account that mixing 40 or 50 channels requires some CPU on its own even with a very good ASIO driver (Emu 1010 - I've had the best results with that compared to M-Audio and such), and that there will always be some background processes eating up CPU as well as generic overhead from Cubase in general, and there's usually less than 30% CPU left for VSTis.
Is it reasonable for 15 of even the most compact and optimized VSTis to use more than 30% CPU? I'd say so.
It's even worse if I tried to use heavy-duty samples. For example, I've got a massive (over 2 GB) 24-bit piano which I load into Emulator X (but it could be loaded into Kontakt or EXS24 just the same), and just by itself it takes up a good 20% of my CPU with a typical 5-10 note polyphony. It's even WORSE if I'm using the sustain pedal, because then the polyphony can easily go up to 20 or 30 notes. So, to compensate for this, I just stick in a "low-fi" piano until the final mix, then replace it with the "good" piano, and immediately bounce the track just in case I need to make other changes to the track later.
I'm not saying you're wrong, it certainly is *possible* to do a complete track with the parameters you've specified without overloading the CPU, but it's heavily dependent on the track itself. Some of my tracks, I never needed to freeze any instruments, but with recent tracks, I've had to freeze ALL my instruments and am still overloading the CPU! That's why I'm using additional systems to distribute the load via MIDI/FXT. |
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| peejunk |
| Depending on the sound I often bounce multisamples (using chainer, but samplerobot looks interesting), single one-shots or loops and load them in the sampler or as audio. Works lika a charm, I end up mixing down at about 60& CPU. |
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