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| Spyder |
I got a few questions about degrees and their nationalities..
If for instance if someone came from India to Canada to study as an international student they would receive a Canadian degree.. how good or what good would it be to them back home in India…?
How about for Canadian citizen going to Australia, USA, UK or any other country… getting a degree there and then coming back home..
would it be worth the effort? Or would it be just a waste of time and money because job wise people do not want a foreign degree…
I am mostly looking at just Social Science Degrees… history, English, Sociology.. etc..
Does anyone here have any information about that … or even experience? |
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| Floorfiller |
| well as far as the social sciences i don't think getting an international degree would be a bad thing at all. i mean it might even be something that they look at highly because of the experience of living in another country or something. i mean, if i'm an american and i go study history at Oxford...you damn right i would get a nice job hahaha... |
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| Remiks |
| degrees dont mean squat nowadays, all they look for is experience in whatever field ur in. Here in the USA they use college as a lure to get people to sign their name off to the devil on the contract. Schools here are about 60,000$, and the interests on loans are going up higher than ever before. A buddy of mine just graduated with a 4 year degree from a prestigious school and is working some crappy job for 8 bucks an hour, thats what a 4 year degree got him. Degrees are overrated, but if you must know it depends on the country. Some countries arent biased on that stuff, but others are. Here in the states, Americans are pompous pricks, and see an american education as the standard pretty much, so if you come from some 3rd world country, your degree is looked as a GED almost. You'd pretty much have to redo ur whole education from scratch. My mother was a nurse back in Poland, graduated a school for nursing with a degree, but when she came here, it was worth zilch, and had to redo another 4 years. |
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| Bartanian |
a degree in any country is the same level really
but an employer will look more towards the reputation of the university/college where it was awarded |
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| jdat |
In most cases you can cross over from one country to another.
But you should to know that you can't do it in country specific education programs ( like law, and sometimes medical ( they don't recognize your schooling as it's not local )).
The key thing is to try and stick to is recognized worldwide titles; then again it's all very blurry and a title is just a title; it's most often the length and subject of education that matters to the employer.
What I mean by Titles is BA Masters Phd Doctorat.
Then again it's really unclear and countries that have their own names for certain diplomas do still tend to be considered equivalent to the titles I gave you.
As a means of completion of study in a certain field and trying to find work in another country that tends to be ok.
Where it could get tricky is when trying to continue your schooling in another country in a program you did not complete.
In most cases the foreign school will find an equivalent in transferring your previous credits but in some rare instances they may deny you and it can become an uphill battle. |
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| gmoney |
| You guys should listen to me as I know what I'm talking about. If you go to a good school, then it doesn't matter what degree you get. For example, if you go to Harvard and get a degree in ass-wiping then you will still get a good job. However, if you go to east-bumble state, then you should know what you are doing and do it. However, your degree and grades only help you get your first job. After that, its what you do. It's all about getting your foot in the door. I know idiots who went to ivy league schools who are doing much worse than people who went to ty schools. |
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| Dervish |
That suff about the reps. of the unis isn't true.
Top Unis for Employment
| quote: | 1 St Mary's 2.7
2 St Martin's 3.1
3= Canterbury Christ Church 3.7
3= The Robert Gordon 3.7
5 Newcastle upon Tyne 3.9
6 UHI Millennium Institute 4.0
7 King's College London 4.2
8 Queen's University Belfast 4.3
9= LSE 4.4
9= Queen Margaret 4.4
Source:Hesa |
>Times Uni Guide<
Note no oxford, no cambridge..... Robert Gordon Uni (my old one ;) does however feature) |
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| astroboy |
| quote: | Originally posted by Spyder
I got a few questions about degrees and their nationalities..
If for instance if someone came from India to Canada to study as an international student they would receive a Canadian degree.. how good or what good would it be to them back home in India…?
How about for Canadian citizen going to Australia, USA, UK or any other country… getting a degree there and then coming back home..
would it be worth the effort? Or would it be just a waste of time and money because job wise people do not want a foreign degree…
I am mostly looking at just Social Science Degrees… history, English, Sociology.. etc..
Does anyone here have any information about that … or even experience? |
The only problems may be in professions that are regulated by a special body. For example medical standards differ accross jurisdictions, hence a medical practitioner will need to complete additional training and assessment to requalify. Similarly lawyers will need to undertake additional study when they move from one jurisdiction to another if they wish to continue to practice.
Social sciences are not a discipline that is aimed at a specific profession whose standards are governed by a regulatory body. In such cases one should, as has been mentioned, look at the reputation of the university internationally (including the reputation of the academics and the quality/amount of material they publish). Generaly speaking employers tend to value any travel experience. This tends to demonstrate that the potential employee has a broader worldview, more experience in independant life, and is generally a more "rounded" individual. Many universities these days encourage their undergrads to spend some tie studying abroad. |
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| est |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dervish
That suff about the reps. of the unis isn't true.
Top Unis for Employment
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1 St Mary's 2.7
2 St Martin's 3.1
3= Canterbury Christ Church 3.7
3= The Robert Gordon 3.7
5 Newcastle upon Tyne 3.9
6 UHI Millennium Institute 4.0
7 King's College London 4.2
8 Queen's University Belfast 4.3
9= LSE 4.4
9= Queen Margaret 4.4
Source:Hesa
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King's and LSE both have extremely high reps - world famous.
| quote: | | Note no oxford, no cambridge..... Robert Gordon Uni (my old one ;) does however feature) |
That's becuase RGU is an ex-poly, meaning that you get more experience and industry contacts than you ever would at an older institution. As Dervish says, it quite often makes more sense to do your degree at a newer institution that may be less well established (unless you're a hardcore masochistic academic, like me;) ) |
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| dj_mdma |
St Mary's College is also the top university for Teachers, and getting a degree as a teacher guarantee's you a job due to the shortage here.
Its also down the road from me (Y) |
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| Moral Hazard |
| quote: | Originally posted by Spyder
If for instance if someone came from India to Canada to study as an international student they would receive a Canadian degree.. how good or what good would it be to them back home in India…?
How about for Canadian citizen going to Australia, USA, UK or any other country… getting a degree there and then coming back home..
would it be worth the effort? Or would it be just a waste of time and money because job wise people do not want a foreign degree…
I am mostly looking at just Social Science Degrees… history, English, Sociology.. etc..
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This is a touchy area as it depends on the country and program in many cases. Generally speaking a batcholer degree is a batcholer degree regardless of the country of issue. The problem you may run into is that some employers give more weight to certain institutions degrees then others because of their reputation. For instance a degree in economics from Harvard or The London School of Economics will be looked upon more favorably then from most other institutions.
If you are looking at getting into a regulated/licensed field then the country of origin for your degree may matter much more. For instance an Afgani medical degree means in Canada.
Due to the number of commonwealth countries you mention in your question I presume that your reside in one (I didn't check your location). For the most part all degrees issued by commonwealth countries are recognized as equal in all other commonwealth countries. I believe that the US recognizes Canadian, UK and Austraillian degrees but not Indian (I'm not sure).
If you want a degree in any area of humanities then you're okay as most people don't care where you got your degree, however, the more prestigious the school the better. |
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