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Sandra Pupatello is a sexist who should be expelled from cabinet
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Dalton McGuinty has been in power and under fire since October 2003. And now he’s about to make some big changes.
But whether you support his government or oppose it, this likely won’t make much difference.
The Premier has confirmed he’s planning a big cabinet shuffle in the next few weeks. Rumours had been swirling about the Grit boss’ plans for a while, but up until Wednesday he wouldn’t confirm anything.
Now it appears he’s ready to put some old faces in some brand new places.
And it seems McGuinty has a gender agenda underway, looking to promote more women into the upper echelon.
He’s been criticized for having fewer females in his cabinet than either Mike Harris or Ernie Eves.
His response to the rebukes? “Be patient.”
“I think politics and government would be a better place if there were more women involved in politics,” he agrees. “I have said that from day one. I still believe that, and I do a lot of work all the time to make sure more women get involved … So it stands to reason more women should be at the cabinet table, and it would be a better cabinet if more women were at the table.”
Social Services Minister Sandra Pupatello is one of those chosen few. She welcomes having more female companions in the decision-making halls of power.
"I think they should all be women," she jokes. "(We'd have an) extremely functional government if all ministers were women."
Those who stand to lose – or change - their jobs are remaining non-committal on what’s coming. “The Premier has the right to appoint, and to disappoint," laughs Public Safety Minister Monte Kwinter, although he admits he fears a demotion to the backbenches. “It's not my favourite place to be," he agrees.
Whatever McGuinty’s going to do, he should likely do it fast. The Premier admits talk about cabinet shuffles can distract his ministers and their personnel from the business of running the government.
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Now imagine I were a male cabinet member and even jokingly said
"I think they should all be men," "(We'd have an) extremely functional government if all ministers were men."
The would hit the fan wouldn't it? Look at Runciman who took flak for calling belinda a dipstick. This is waaaay worse in my opinion but does anybody say anything? Nope.
Double standards :whip: :whip: :whip: :whip: :whip: :whip: :whip: |
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| Jayx1 |
Here is the very same pupatello complaining about a sexist remark made by a male... yet she seems to have no problem making sexist jokes herself.
I wouldnt even care about these jokes if they were acceptable all around. But i HATE double standards.
| quote: | TORY MPP Bob Runciman dismissed Belinda Stronach as an attractive "dipstick" yesterday.
Runciman said the new Liberal cabinet minister has become a "joke" by switching allegiance.
"I think she's sort of defined herself as something of a dipstick -- an attractive one -- but still a dipstick," Runciman said.
His comment attracted moral outrage from provincial Liberal politicians who raised the issue in the Legislature yesterday.
Liberal MPP Kathleen Wynne called Runciman's words "offensive and sexist," and said they could dissuade young girls from entering politics.
Community and Social Services Minister Sandra Pupatello said provincial PC Leader John Tory should force his caucus member to apologize.
"It really diminishes all women who are in this business," she said.
Pupatello said she was one of the Liberal ministers who demanded an immediate apology when her colleague, MPP Shafiq Qaadri, suggested a female politician was having a "hot flash" while making a passionate point in the Legislature.
Premier Dalton McGuinty refused to comment on Stronach's switch in loyalties.
But he noted Stronach has always been a champion of Ontario's battle to decrease the $23-billion gap between what Ottawa takes from the province and what it sends back.
"So I am pleased to have her continue in any capacity that she might want to assume when it comes to supporting Ontario's campaign for fairness," McGuinty said. |
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| PartyHarlequin |
| I think we should have an appointed monarch. Or a conservative gov' the liberal party is a joke that continues to insult canadians everywhere. All the bull sorrounding PC stuff is also bull, people need to be less sensitive to what is said and more sensitive to what is done. Honestly I don't support any kind of system that forces anything to be done on a basis of equals. Whoever does the best job gets the job and that should include politicians. I don't care if it's all male, all female I just want an effective government with a large military budget. |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by PartyHarlequin
I think we should have an appointed monarch. Or a conservative gov' the liberal party is a joke that continues to insult canadians everywhere. All the bull sorrounding PC stuff is also bull, people need to be less sensitive to what is said and more sensitive to what is done. Honestly I don't support any kind of system that forces anything to be done on a basis of equals. Whoever does the best job gets the job and that should include politicians. I don't care if it's all male, all female I just want an effective government with a large military budget. |
Agreed 100%
Im not against any of these jokes. Her jokes dont offend me. What offends me is that as a female she gets away with it but males would not. I don't stand for this kind of accepted double standard. That in itself is far more sexist than some stupid little joke ever could be. This woman has always been offensive though. I could dig up a long history on the damage this MPP has caused our province. |
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| Jayx1 |
hahah this rant from the National Post that I found is brilliant:
| quote: | Dwarf Abuse
The Desperate Search For Oppression
March 17, 2003
I'm going to fill a dark awful basement with radioactive cockroaches. Yep. Big nasty ones like skateboards on legs, that go click-click-click when they walk. And maybe poisonous. I'm going to starve them for a week.
Then I'm going to catch all the coercive priss-spigots in the world, the ones that want to ban second-hand smoke and dwarf-tossing and beer. I'll smear the rascals with bacon fat, so the roaches won't know what they're eating, as otherwise they might not.
Then I'm going to toss all those greased busybodies into the basement. And whoop. And dance. Ha.
In the National Post of Canada,* I find that one Sandra Pupatello, a member of that afflicted nation's Parliament, has her knickers in a bunch over dwarf-tossing. Upset, she is. No end.
Now, dwarf-tossing is a sport, like baseball. The Aussies invented it. (I think.) A great big guy picks up the dwarf, or maybe a couple of great big guys, usually in an agreeably unruly bar full of second-hand smoke, and beer, where people say dirty words, and toss him as far as they can. Like the shot-put.
I'm puzzled. Why is this terrible? And why is it any business of Sandra's?
From the pupatellian whoop, and yellin,' you might believe what the dwarves aren't tellin': that they're being forced into indentured tossedhood--shanghaied, or drugged, or hit on their heads and dragged into dark alleys, thereafter to lead degraded lives of being tossed till closing, and then kept in wall lockers, and fed scraps.
No. It is voluntary. In fact Bradley, a Torontovian dwarf otherwise known as Tripod, said, "I'm doing this because I want to. I'm an adult and can make my own decisions."
Well, no, he can't. The dread lady is going to make them for him. It's because she's his mother. She's everybody's mother.
I want a DNA test.
You might also gain the impression that the dwarves, victims of course, were being hurled against broken rocks, or boards with nails in them, or perhaps into industrial grinders. Savagery. Sadism. Oppression (especially). Broken and bleeding little people.
Again, no. Cushions. It is a non-destructive sport. Silly, perhaps. Silly almost certainly. But not vicious.
I once knew a couple of dwarfs casually. One did some kind of library research in Washington, and the other didn't. Relying on an exhaustive statistical sampling of both of them, I have elaborated Fred's Law of Dwarves: They're like everybody else, only short. They can make their own decisions without help from some overwrought Carry Nation with an Adolph wish.
Used to be, crusaders wanted to stop abuses, such as wretched treatment of migrant labor, or the sweating of children in shoe factories. It was a good idea. Mostly it worked. Then the reformers ran out of victims, and needed to find some more. So they started hunting for new and largely imaginary victims, like pigs snuffling for truffles.
Soon fat people were victims. Homosexuals were victims. Women who gave birth like a slot-machine jackpot were victims. The shiftless were victims. The unhappy and bored and rained-on were victims, and people with warts. Their rights had to be protected.
The reformers had discovered predatory moralism. It gave us Prohibition and organized crime. The focus shifted from helping the downtrodden to browbeating everyone else. Virtue is the instinctive weapon of the vaguely angry. They wield it like a cosh.
Do they ever. Sandra says, "We've worked diligently over generations to change attitudes towards people who might be different in some way."
The dripping sound you hear is Ms. Pupatello. She's leaking forty-weight meddlesome tediousness. "We"? Who is "we"? Who asked her to change attitudes? (Maybe in Canada they elect politicians to change attitudes.) What attitude precisely needs to be changed?
Mother Pupatello has found a new twist in the social rope: Coercive third-party civil rights. She wants to impose unwanted rights, and then enforce them. Dwarf-tossing, which is voluntary behavior between consenting adults, becomes a violation of rights, though no one involved thinks it is, and nobody asked Mommy Sandra in the first place. (Who, by the way, is in violation? The dwarf willingly engages in the tossing. He's violating his own civil rights. We should jail dwarves.)
The punitive imposition of rights not asked for grows common in North America. Note the banning of dodgeball in the public schools as violence, and the attempt to keep boys from roughhousing. Why? Kids want to play dodgeball. If they didn't, they wouldn't. We aren't talking compulsory dodgeball. And boys like to wrestle. It's why they do it. (Anybody thought of that?)
But teachers don't like to roughhouse. So, following the totalitarian instincts of prigs and prudes and the self-consciously inadequate everywhere, they make sappy passivity a human right. Then they inflict it on kids who would rather have scarlet fever.
It's rule by parsnips, I tell you, by smugly hostile hop-toads with damp fingers.
Smoking in bars works the same way. If you don't like smoke, tell the owner. Then go to another bar. If enough people want smokeless bars, somebody will start one, or lots of them. But don't tell me I'm a victim of second-hand smoke, when I didn't ask your opinion in the first place, and then protect me from something I don't mind.
(No, I don't smoke, never have, but I like smoky bars. People who smoke are more interesting than people who don't. And reformers would never come to a smoky bar because they'd be afraid they'd get cancer. I'd be afraid they wouldn't.)
But maybe there's hope. Says an AP story out of Tampa, a dwarf named Dave Flood is suing to have Florida's anti-tossing law overturned. He appears on a radio show as Dave the Dwarf, and opines as follows:
"They assume because you have some physical handicap, you can't make decisions for yourself…I don't have a mental handicap. I don't like the government telling me what I can and cannot do."
But the position of the reformers, though they would never admit it, is precisely that the very short are mental defectives. They can't manage their lives, so priss wads have to do it for them.
She needs a cat.
Now, if the tossed guys aren't offended (and if they were, they'd just quit), and the customers aren't offended, who or what is offended? Answer: Ms. Pupawhatsit's delicate sensibilities. Of which more and more of us are indeed the victims.
I'm changing my mind about the giant radioactive cockroaches. It's an animal-abuse issue. I mean, I'd hate being kept in a dark basement and having puritans dropped on me.
*National Post, June 13 |
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| Moral Hazard |
I'll agree that there is a double standard and you're right a male MP could not get away with such things.
On a personal note, I've met Sandra a number of times and can attest that she is a very smart and very cool lady. |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Moral Hazard
I'll agree that there is a double standard and you're right a male MP could not get away with such things.
On a personal note, I've met Sandra a number of times and can attest that she is a very smart and very cool lady. |
Id like to meet her... I have a few words for her.
id like to talk to her about how she ruined the rave scene, her blatant anti male sexist views and the hypocrisy that she spouts off routinely. I'd also like to know why she tries to be the matriarch of ontario.
Go away!
Im sure shes a nice person but politically shes an abomination. |
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| Moral Hazard |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
I'd also like to know why she tries to be the matriarch of ontario.
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I can answer that one in one word... DALTON. You know that I was once very involved with the Liberal Party (prior to my falling out with them on ideological grounds). Well, during that time I got to meet both of these individuals on many many occasions (ended up on a first name basis)... anyway... you should see the way Dalton interacts with Sandra when there are no cameras arround. He blows so much smoke up her ass it's frightening. I suppose either he really thinks she is the cats ass or he just wants to ensure he has her support but he has done a great job making her think she is the most important person in the party. She honestly believes that she is next in line for the leadership, who knows she may be.
On a side note that is Dalton's greatest strength as a leader, he really makes everyone that surrounds him feel special and important. He's good at feeding egos. |
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| e*motion |
Q: whats the smartest thing to ever come out of a womans mouth?
A: Einsteins Dick. :stongue:
(just a joke.. so relax ladies) |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Moral Hazard
I can answer that one in one word... DALTON. You know that I was once very involved with the Liberal Party (prior to my falling out with them on ideological grounds). Well, during that time I got to meet both of these individuals on many many occasions (ended up on a first name basis)... anyway... you should see the way Dalton interacts with Sandra when there are no cameras arround. He blows so much smoke up her ass it's frightening. I suppose either he really thinks she is the cats ass or he just wants to ensure he has her support but he has done a great job making her think she is the most important person in the party. She honestly believes that she is next in line for the leadership, who knows she may be.
On a side note that is Dalton's greatest strength as a leader, he really makes everyone that surrounds him feel special and important. He's good at feeding egos. |
First, if she ever becomes premier God help us all. She will have us all staying home and eating granola. Especially the dwarves. she represents everything i cant stand with the direction that our society is headed.
Mama knows best (mama being the government)... they can shove it. Tell sandra that ravers want rave, dwarves want to be tossed, and men want respect too.
Oh yeah and dalton, he should be tossed as well.
You have a unique perspective on these people. Im sure they are great people on a personal level but their politics leave much to be desired. Sadly i find it to be a very sheltered position on society and it would be laughable if they didnt actually legislate their illusions into law. |
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| shanny |
| quote: | Originally posted by Moral Hazard
I'll agree that there is a double standard and you're right a male MP could not get away with such things.
On a personal note, I've met Sandra a number of times and can attest that she is a very smart and very cool lady. |
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She went to my highschool and is still pretty active in the community.
I also agree that there is a double standard, but having met her she is a pretty cool woman so I can't say I agree with all the remarks about her. |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by shanny
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She went to my highschool and is still pretty active in the community.
I also agree that there is a double standard, but having met her she is a pretty cool woman so I can't say I agree with all the remarks about her. |
As i said im sure shes a nice person on a personal level. But you should research what she did to the rave scene. She used half truths an innuendo to scare the hell out of the electorate for no reason. ANd now these double standards. There is no justification for her actions at all. |
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