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Tom Cruise interview with Matt Lauer (pg. 6)
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| Estella |
| Yeah, I'm behind your thinking on the adverse affects of medication 110%. I've witnessed it myself, also. I edited my original post, though. hahaa. I can be a bit wishy-washy on this subject matter. I tried reading it years ago, but it was way over my head. Now I'm sparked to give it another attempt. |
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| Estella |
| quote: | Originally posted by igottaknow
http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Fishma...ar.html?FACTNet
"The founder of this enterprise was part storyteller, part flimflam man. Born In Nebraska in 1911, Hubbard served in the Navy during World War II and soon afterward complained to the Veterans Administration about his "suicidal inclinations" and his "seriously affected" mind. Nevertheless, Hubbard was a moderately successful writer of pulp science fiction. Years later, church brochures described him falsely as an "extensively decorated" World War II hero who was crippled and blinded in action, twice pronounced dead and miraculously cured through Scientology. Hubbard's "doctorate" from "Sequoia University" was a fake mall-order degree. In a I984 case in which the church sued a Hubbard biographical researcher, a California judge concluded that its founder was "a pathological liar."
Hubbard wrote one of Scientology's sacred texts, Dianetics: The Modern Science of Mental Health, in 1950. In it he introduced a crude psychotherapeutic technique he called "auditing." He also created a simplified lie detector (called an "E-meter") that was designed to measure electrical changes In the skin while subjects discussed intimate details of their past. Hubbard argued that unhappiness sprang from mental aberrations (or "engrams") caused by early traumas. Counseling sessions with the E-meter, he claimed, could knock out the engrams, cure blindness and even improve a person's intelligence and appearance.
Hubbard kept adding steps, each more costly, for his followers to climb. In the 1960s the guru decreed that humans are made of clusters of spirits (or "thetans") who were banished to earth some 75 million years ago by a cruel galactic ruler named Xenu. Naturally, those thetans had to be audited.
An Internal Revenue Service ruling in 1967 stripped Scientology's mother church of its tax-exempt status. A federal court ruled in 1971 that Hubbard's medical claims were bogus and that E-meter auditing could no longer be called a scientific treatment. Hubbard responded by going fully religious, seeking First Amendment protection for Scien- tology's strange rites. His counselors started sporting clerical collars. Chapels were built, franchises became "missions," fees became "fixed donations," and Hubbard's comic-book cosmology became "sacred scriptures.'" |
Yes! I was looking for that. A friend was telling me their beliefs were stemed basically from a Sci-fi novel which was written in very recent years. Squirrelly, that's why I thought it may just be a Hollywood, face value, trendy fad which would dissipate in a couple of years. But, the company my uncle works for, assigned all employees to read "Dianetics." That's how I was introduced. I'll still give it a go. Or try at least. I'd like to see what all the commotion is about. |
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| M@t |
| quote: | Originally posted by igottaknow
http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Fishma...ar.html?FACTNet
"The founder of this enterprise was part storyteller, part flimflam man. Born In Nebraska in 1911, Hubbard served in the Navy during World War II and soon afterward complained to the Veterans Administration about his "suicidal inclinations" and his "seriously affected" mind. Nevertheless, Hubbard was a moderately successful writer of pulp science fiction. Years later, church brochures described him falsely as an "extensively decorated" World War II hero who was crippled and blinded in action, twice pronounced dead and miraculously cured through Scientology. Hubbard's "doctorate" from "Sequoia University" was a fake mall-order degree. In a I984 case in which the church sued a Hubbard biographical researcher, a California judge concluded that its founder was "a pathological liar."
Hubbard wrote one of Scientology's sacred texts, Dianetics: The Modern Science of Mental Health, in 1950. In it he introduced a crude psychotherapeutic technique he called "auditing." He also created a simplified lie detector (called an "E-meter") that was designed to measure electrical changes In the skin while subjects discussed intimate details of their past. Hubbard argued that unhappiness sprang from mental aberrations (or "engrams") caused by early traumas. Counseling sessions with the E-meter, he claimed, could knock out the engrams, cure blindness and even improve a person's intelligence and appearance.
Hubbard kept adding steps, each more costly, for his followers to climb. In the 1960s the guru decreed that humans are made of clusters of spirits (or "thetans") who were banished to earth some 75 million years ago by a cruel galactic ruler named Xenu. Naturally, those thetans had to be audited.
An Internal Revenue Service ruling in 1967 stripped Scientology's mother church of its tax-exempt status. A federal court ruled in 1971 that Hubbard's medical claims were bogus and that E-meter auditing could no longer be called a scientific treatment. Hubbard responded by going fully religious, seeking First Amendment protection for Scien- tology's strange rites. His counselors started sporting clerical collars. Chapels were built, franchises became "missions," fees became "fixed donations," and Hubbard's comic-book cosmology became "sacred scriptures.'" |
At least the christians came up with a plausable story
This guy is clearly taking everyone for a ride. Concocting more and more ridiculous bull as he went along for moneymaking purposes
:stongue: at scientology |
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| squirrelly |
| quote: | Originally posted by Estella
Yes! I was looking for that. A friend was telling me their beliefs were stemed basically from a Sci-fi novel which was written in very recent years. Squirrelly, that's why I thought it may just be a Hollywood, face value, trendy fad which would dissipate in a couple of years. But, the company my uncle works for, assigned all employees to read "Dianetics." That's how I was introduced. I'll still give it a go. Or try at least. I'd like to see what all the commotion is about. |
Perhaps it is. I am simply supplying information that I happen to know about it. Again, I am not a Scientologist, and I never will be. I just know many people that are, so I provide information that they have given to me. |
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| Estella |
I found that frightening. I don't know why. I can't put my finger on it. |
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| squirrelly |
| quote: | Originally posted by Estella
I found that frightening. I don't know why. I can't put my finger on it. |
Probably because it's not real. |
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| Aiwendil |
| quote: | Originally posted by squirrelly
Perhaps it is. I am simply supplying information that I happen to know about it. Again, I am not a Scientologist, and I never will be. I just know many people that are, so I provide information that they have given to me. |
You Scientologists. Always with the "I know this." and "You don't know the history of that." |
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| Estella |
Jehovah Witness' condone blood transfusions and holidays because they are "pagan." Catholics condoned birth control. Christians condone homosexuality. Others condone the killing of pests, the wearing of make-up until reaching a certain age. And please do correct me if I'm wrong on these beliefs.
What's the difference? :conf: |
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| Orbax |
| Im pretty sure he was joking, lol. |
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| igottaknow |
| quote: | Originally posted by squirrelly
Probably because it's not real. |
I thought you were going to say:
"No, you see. Here's the problem. You don't know the history of scientology. I do"
:rolleyes: |
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| squirrelly |
| quote: | Originally posted by igottaknow
I thought you were going to say:
"No, you see. Here's the problem. You don't know the history of scientology. I do"
:rolleyes: |
No, that would make me as much of a jackass as Tom Cruise. |
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