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Jeremy H
Hey!
Recording my mixes worked great on my old computer.. But on my "new" one, it doesnt go well at all..
I have the mixer connected to the blue line-in slot and the software I use is Sony Soundforge 7.0.
My problem is that the volume peaks (goes into the red zone of the volume meter) as soon as I touch the line-in volume level one millimeter up..it's not possible to have the volume lower without muting the line-in.. Can anyone plz help?

:(


EDIT: I have the cable connected to "record" in my Numark DXM06-mixer..just like i had earlier when it worked ;S
ô§§|E
Have you tried turning ur gain knob on ur mixer down? That'll stop it going into red and having that unnacceptable static sound.

I had this problem with my mixer too, it solved it, it means you'll have ur gains down, and your amp/stereo/master volume turned up, but it does solve the problem.

Hope that helped, if not let us know, and im sure we can sort it out, i just went through this process 30 minutes ago, it was a ROYAL pain in the ass! :whip:
Jeremy H
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Originally posted by ô§§|E
Have you tried turning ur gain knob on ur mixer down? That'll stop it going into red and having that unnacceptable static sound.

I had this problem with my mixer too, it solved it, it means you'll have ur gains down, and your amp/stereo/master volume turned up, but it does solve the problem.

Hope that helped, if not let us know, and im sure we can sort it out, i just went through this process 30 minutes ago, it was a ROYAL pain in the ass! :whip:

Well..not at home right now but I guess it would work to lower the gains to almost mininum.. But that's not the way its supposed to be ;S What if you need to work the gains during your mix?
tvmann
Are you sure you're not using a mic-level input jack on your soundcard or maybe have somehow set it by software so it is acting like a mic-level input? That would explain why the level looks way too high.
[Chriz]
i had this problem as well and i turned the line-in setting on my desktop volume control down and turned up the vol knobs on my mixer. the vol peaks in wavelab stay in the greenzone and my mixes are of sufficient volume. let me know if it works, cos it works like a charm for me.
Jeremy H
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Originally posted by tvmann
Are you sure you're not using a mic-level input jack on your soundcard or maybe have somehow set it by software so it is acting like a mic-level input? That would explain why the level looks way too high.

Naa.. it is line-in.. Already checked that.. It just seems like my line-in is ultra sensitive in some crazy way :/
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Originally posted by [Chriz]
i had this problem as well and i turned the line-in setting on my desktop volume control down and turned up the vol knobs on my mixer. the vol peaks in wavelab stay in the greenzone and my mixes are of sufficient volume. let me know if it works, cos it works like a charm for me.

Well.. the only thing besides the faders on the mixer that changes the volume of that output is the gain nobs.. And it works if I have my gains at 7-8 o'clock ;S .. But thats not practicle at all..
ô§§|E
I'll try n sort it out tonight, bit busy today until then, it'll be a windows setting though if u feel like playing around with it :) in fact im pretty fricking sure i know exactly what it is but cant test it for while, once i can confirm it i'll write u a step by step :)

p.s i dunno about you, but i never need to lower my tracks by THAT much using the gains, some i do a fair bit but going from 9 to 7 on the gain seems just enough (yeah there are prolly caces that it screws up for but meh)
Jeremy H
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Originally posted by ô§§|E
I'll try n sort it out tonight, bit busy today until then, it'll be a windows setting though if u feel like playing around with it :) in fact im pretty fricking sure i know exactly what it is but cant test it for while, once i can confirm it i'll write u a step by step :)

p.s i dunno about you, but i never need to lower my tracks by THAT much using the gains, some i do a fair bit but going from 9 to 7 on the gain seems just enough (yeah there are prolly caces that it screws up for but meh)

That would be great if you solved it :)
I know I often dont need to lower my tracks that much either but.. I do it when i do som "tricks".. And it would also be hard to keep the levels by lookin at the LEDs when having a weak signal like that..

Heading off to Amsterdam and Sensation now! Good luck! :D
ô§§|E
Alrighty, it was what i thought it was, good news :)

ok heres what u do:
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1: On ur computer go to the "Control Panel".

2: Then go to "Sounds and Audio Devices".

3: In the "Volume" tab, you'll see two squares, one is labelled "Device Volume" and the other is called "speaker Settings", you want to look at the square labelled "Device Volume", now click the "Advanced" button IN that square.

4: You'll see a window appear with a bunch of faders for things like "Wave", "CD Audio", "Line In" and so on, you are interested in the "Line In" fader, make sure it ISN'T muted (there should not be a tick in the mute box), and then set this fader to about 55% of the way up.

5: Close this window and now the volume from your mixer should be altered.

6: Load Soundforge (or whatever other program you're using to record) and try recording now, you should be able to have the GAIN knob on your mixer at 12 o'clock (this depends a little on the track that you're playing).

7: These settings may not be perfect just yet. Raise and lower the volume on the "Line In" setting in the control panel until the sound is being recorded how you want, and the gain knob is in the right position for your own use.
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Im assuming you're using Windows XP btw :)

Hope that helped you out, if not let me know :p
Jeremy H
quote:
Originally posted by ô§§|E
Alrighty, it was what i thought it was, good news :)

ok heres what u do:
____________________________________________________________________
1: On ur computer go to the "Control Panel".

2: Then go to "Sounds and Audio Devices".

3: In the "Volume" tab, you'll see two squares, one is labelled "Device Volume" and the other is called "speaker Settings", you want to look at the square labelled "Device Volume", now click the "Advanced" button IN that square.

4: You'll see a window appear with a bunch of faders for things like "Wave", "CD Audio", "Line In" and so on, you are interested in the "Line In" fader, make sure it ISN'T muted (there should not be a tick in the mute box), and then set this fader to about 55% of the way up.

5: Close this window and now the volume from your mixer should be altered.

6: Load Soundforge (or whatever other program you're using to record) and try recording now, you should be able to have the GAIN knob on your mixer at 12 o'clock (this depends a little on the track that you're playing).

7: These settings may not be perfect just yet. Raise and lower the volume on the "Line In" setting in the control panel until the sound is being recorded how you want, and the gain knob is in the right position for your own use.
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Im assuming you're using Windows XP btw :)

Hope that helped you out, if not let me know :p

Thank you very very much :)
Seems like I need to have the "what you hear" selected as input.. and to not have the line-in muted in the output options, just like you said :)

If I have the "line-in" output volume at the absolute lowest possible without having it muted, I can now change the "what you hear" volume to get proper levels! Seems strange that the line-in's output volume is that sensitive tho!

ô§§|E
hmmmmmmm, not to sure about using the "what you hear" setting instead of the "line in" setting, im gonna give that a go tomorrow and see how it comes out :)

glad it worked out for u though!
david.michael
Additionally, sometimes in the Volume control panel, if your sound card has "Advanced" options for any of the inputs, make sure that there isn't an option such as "Mic Gain" turned on.
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