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Warm Fuzzies from China
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| NeoPhono |
Okay China...it's okay to think it, just don't say it. We all know that you have nukes and that you'll probably nuke away if need be. Just let us live in our ignorant bliss without your disturbing threats.
| quote: | Top Chinese general warns US over attack
By Alexandra Harney in Beijing and Demetri Sevastopulo and Edward Alden in Washington
Published: July 14 2005 21:59 | Last updated: July 15 2005 00:03
China is prepared to use nuclear weapons against the US if it is attacked by Washington during a confrontation over Taiwan, a Chinese general said on Thursday.
“If the Americans draw their missiles and position-guided ammunition on to the target zone on China's territory, I think we will have to respond with nuclear weapons,” said General Zhu Chenghu.
Gen Zhu was speaking at a function for foreign journalists organised, in part, by the Chinese government. He added that China's definition of its territory included warships and aircraft.
“If the Americans are determined to interfere [then] we will be determined to respond,” said Gen Zhu, who is also a professor at China's National Defence University.
“We . . . will prepare ourselves for the destruction of all of the cities east of Xian. Of course the Americans will have to be prepared that hundreds . . . of cities will be destroyed by the Chinese.”
Gen Zhu is a self-acknowledged “hawk” who has warned that China could strike the US with long-range missiles. But his threat to use nuclear weapons in a conflict over Taiwan is the most specific by a senior Chinese official in nearly a decade.
However, some US-based China experts cautioned that Gen Zhu probably did not represent the mainstream People's Liberation Army view.
“He is running way beyond his brief on what China might do in relation to the US if push comes to shove,” said one expert with knowledge of Gen Zhu. “Nobody who is cleared for information on Chinese war scenarios is going to talk like this,” he added.
Gen Zhu's comments come as the Pentagon prepares to brief Congress next Monday on its annual report on the Chinese military, which is expected to take a harder line than previous years. They are also likely to fuel the mounting anti-China sentiment on Capitol Hill.
In recent months, a string of US officials, including Donald Rumsfeld, defence secretary, have raised concerns about China's military rise. The Pentagon on Thursday declined to comment on “hypothetical scenarios”.
Rick Fisher, a former senior US congressional official and an authority on the Chinese military, said the specific nature of the threat “is a new addition to China's public discourse”. China's official doctrine has called for no first use of nuclear weapons since its first atomic test in 1964. But Gen Zhu is not the first Chinese official to refer to the possibility of using such weapons first in a conflict over Taiwan.
Chas Freeman, a former US assistant secretary of defence, said in 1996 that a PLA official had told him China could respond in kind to a nuclear strike by the US in the event of a conflict with Taiwan. The official is believed to have been Xiong Guangkai, now the PLA's deputy chief of general staff.
Gen Zhu said his views did not represent official Chinese policy and he did not anticipate war with the US.
Additional reporting by Richard McGregor in Beijing |
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| Yoepus |
| quote: | Originally posted by NeoPhono
Okay China...it's okay to think it, just don't say it. We all know that you have nukes and that you'll probably nuke away if need be. Just let us live in our ignorant bliss without your disturbing threats. |
:stongue: :haha:
I love this part:
| quote: | | “We . . . will prepare ourselves for the destruction of all of the cities east of Xian. Of course the Americans will have to be prepared that hundreds . . . of cities will be destroyed by the Chinese.” |
Incase you all have no clue where Xi'an is, its in the freakin of goddamn China!! Looky yourself: http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/midd...china_pol01.jpg
Its like, sure we can accept the fact that half our nation - and 98% of its economic and technological power will be destroyed. But hey, well get a couple US cities damn it.
:eyespop: :tongue3
Liked this part also:
| quote: | | “If the Americans draw their missiles and position-guided ammunition on to the target zone on China's territory, I think we will have to respond with nuclear weapons,” said General Zhu Chenghu. |
Its like "ahh maybe we'll have to use nukes, probably. bah I don't know. well use them for good meassure though." lol.
You'd think these Generals would have planned out when it is appropriate to use nukes and when it isn't...
good laugh. thanks neo:thepirate |
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| josh4 |
| they're just jealous iraq is getting all the attention |
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| xxxtasy |
It is rhetoric for political positioning, that's all.
And the General makes sense. The US is technologically more advance, it can strike more Chinese cities than China can to US cities, but the Americans are not ready for a war on their home soil. |
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| George Smiley |
| Why do people think this is something new? China said exactly the same 10 years ago... |
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| Trancer-X |
| quote: | Originally posted by George Smiley
Why do people think this is something new? China said exactly the same 10 years ago... |
true |
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| DrUg_Tit0 |
This guy is good. Kinda reminds me of those generals in Dr Strangelove...
| quote: | Originally posted by Yoepus
Incase you all have no clue where Xi'an is, its in the freakin of goddamn China!! Looky yourself: http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/midd...china_pol01.jpg
Its like, sure we can accept the fact that half our nation - and 98% of its economic and technological power will be destroyed. But hey, well get a couple US cities damn it.
:eyespop: :tongue3 |
Hehe, yeah, I suppose the only reason why cties east of Xian wouldn't be bombed is because there's nothing of importance to bomb there whatsoever. It's like the US saying, hey, we'll loose the east and the west coast, but the Rocky Mountains should stay pretty much intact. |
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| Fir3start3r |
| quote: | Originally posted by George Smiley
Why do people think this is something new? China said exactly the same 10 years ago... |
Only 10??
Seems like forever... :rolleyes: |
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| Shizane2002 |
Of course they would launch nuclear attacks.
Their conventional "military" (if one could call it that) is still using Soviet equipment and training. We saw how those factors played out in 1991 against Iraq, who had the 4th largest military at the time.
100 some hours later....the Soviet Unions "glorious" equipment lay in ruins.
China cannot and will not contend with our military on a conventional level. So they resort to desperation and weakness. |
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| Moongoose |
Except their airforce, unless you yanks can provide a sufficient quantity of super hornets and raptors, and if the chinese pilots are even half as good as russian many yanks will be shot down by this baby:D
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| Shizane2002 |
Come on dude....youre overestimated an inferior aircraft.:p
The Iraqi Air Force had all Soviet type tactical fighters. And most of their pilots were trained by a few Iraqis who were once in Americas Air Force.
They still were victim to the gruesome superiority of our aircraft systems and pilot training. We dont have the best air force in the world for nothing.
Their air force would be an initial threat, but after a campaigne to gain air superiority over China, their 1 million man army would be like little prarie dogs for our pilots to target.
Once air superiority is gained, China wouldnt stand a chance. |
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| shaolin_Z |
are you a UT Student/Alumini Yoepus? |
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