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ATTN Leon from Club Heaven....READ (pg. 4)
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| HALO555 |
I like the tone this thread took was taking in the last few posts, especially refuge's post. I've been reading this for a while as a lot of others have, but I didn't have anything to really add or support. A lot us us seem to feel rather self important on TA and I'd like to avoid that.
In support of Refuge's post, I have gotten to know Leon a bit more through Heaven and outside of Heaven as we had mutual friends in common, and I can say that anything he has done that may be construed as negative, improper, or unprofessional, etc was not done maliciously or intentionally. He's just a guy trying to do his best. Maybe some could do better in certain situations, but Leon is doing this on a consitent basis. That takes commitment.
I doubt that he's actually angry, but he may be a little hurt that there is so much criticism of soemthing that should be for fun while hopefully not going in ruin.
Clovis, I don't know you, so I have nothing against you. Most of us here all have EDM music in common. Some people say you are a decent guy, and you probably are. You've made your point very well. You are NOT happy about your "copyrighted pictures" being posted on the Heaven website. Heaven has been rather slow in removing them. You are right, but keeping things in perspective, it's not like your mother was raped or that you'd actually could have easily sold them. I like the pictures you took. They are good. Heaven could have acknowledged you, but there are plenty of people that are ready to take pictures. Not many Leon's around doing what he's doing. I want to do it, but I haven't had the nuts yet to do it. If Leon could have tecnhically done it himself, he, he probably would have already. He probably has to rely on somebody, else and maybe they're slow to getting around to it. You can criticize and say that's unprofessional, but this is not a major corporation. So you've made your point; give it some more time, and see what happens. Maybe the pictures will be removed, or maybe they won't, but for those of us that care, we can easily find out. If you keep complaining in the same thread about it, you'll start looking bad, even if you were right.
Also, keep in mind that those that may seem be your friends, aren't always the best of friends, and those that you considered your enemies can turn out to be the best of friends. It's that little bird in the story. |
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| Clovis86 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Shafer8
Why don't you put your own name on each photo before you submit it, that way you are covered.
Thats what alot of other people do and this way you can't get ed. Alot of the times people get screwed over is because they let down their guard.
I also think Leon has nothing to gain from not adding your name to the photos. I think he just didnt have time or really doesnt know how to do it. |
My gallery has copyright bars under each photo. I will be adding a watermark in the future...but whats the difference if they are stolen and put on another site regardless...
It would take about ten seconds to ask the web guy to put a small note giving credit. |
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| Noree |
he's right Clovis......i hate you....i always have :p
hahaha im kidding im kidding....trying to make this thread a little more happy now :clown: |
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| Clovis86 |
| quote: | Originally posted by HALO555
Clovis, I don't know you, so I have nothing against you. Most of us here all have EDM music in common. You've made your point very well. You are NOT happy about your "copyrighted pictures" being posted on the Heaven website. Heaven has been rather slow in removing them. You are right, but keeping things in perspective, it's not like your mother was raped or that you'd actually could have easily sold them. I like the pictures you took. They are good. Heaven could have acknowledged you, but there are plenty of people that are ready to take pictures. Not many Leon's around doing what he's doing. I want to do it, but I haven't had the nuts yet to do it. If Leon could have tecnhically done it himself, he, he probably would have already. He probably has to rely on somebody, else and maybe they're slow to getting around to it. You can criticize and say that's unprofessional, but this is not a major corporation. So you've made your point; give it some more time, and see what happens. Maybe the pictures will be removed, or maybe they won't, but for those of us that care, we can easily find out. If you keep complaining in the same thread about it, you'll start looking bad, even if you were right.
Also, keep in mind that those that may seem be your friends, aren't always the best of friends, and those that you considered your enemies can turn out to be the best of friends. It's that little bird in the story. |
I've already made my case so I dont think I need to point anything else out. |
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| Boomer187 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Clovis86
My gallery has copyright bars under each photo. I will be adding a watermark in the future...but whats the difference if they are stolen and put on another site regardless...
It would take about ten seconds to ask the web guy to put a small note giving credit. |
well at least teh only crime was copyright infringement, and not murder, rape, or terrorism. |
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| Clovis86 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Boomer187
well at least teh only crime was copyright infringement, and not murder, rape, or terrorism. |
Praise tha lord! :haha: |
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| Noree |
ok ok ok guys......since i REALLY started this whole .....i would like to end it here...
Leon....u do a great job for the LA scene....and we all do see your hard work.....like someone said before u cant please everyone...i hope there is no hard feelings.....
i must admit i did overreact and for that i do apologize.....but i hope u do see what we were trying to say.
anyway......its my lunch break....yey |
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| TSG |
None of what I read should have been posted on a message board. Any and all problems/issues should have been addressed through emails or other means. It's rather sad to see all the negative stuff being thrown around especially on this board, the TA board where I never imagined to see such things. :sadgreen:
I know Leon has done a great job, not an easy one, but has tried to satisfy everyone by keeping them happy and by booking certain DJs. Perhaps you people got a little spoiled but I also think you need to show some respect.
Keep your head up Leon. |
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| DaveT |
| On another note, Second Sun's agency says they are playing at the VANGUARD on Aug 20th...wonder if there's a venue change for the Tiesto afterparty or if it's a mistake. |
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| Shafer8 |
| Yeah that is a mistake, thanks Dave. |
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| HALO555 |
| quote: | Originally posted by DaveT
On another note, Second Sun's agency says they are playing at the VANGUARD on Aug 20th...wonder if there's a venue change for the Tiesto afterparty or if it's a mistake. |
It's a mistake. the afterty party is at 740 with Second Sun. |
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| Shafer8 |
| And with Matt Darey! |
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