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Can the United States establish a stable, democratic government in Iraq?
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| ::TranceVanDyk:: |
| different place, different people, different beliefs, different time. eventually, theyll succumb back to a theocracy or dictatorship. there is not one democratically elected government in the entire middle east. and there never is going to be one. |
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| Q5echo |
| yes, because there has never been a democratically elected government int he middle east.:) |
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| ::TranceVanDyk:: |
| quote: | Originally posted by Q5echo
yes, because there has never been a democratically elected government int he middle east.:) |
so what makes you think this one will work? |
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| gouuryella |
| quote: | Originally posted by ::TranceVanDyk::
different place, different people, different beliefs, different time. eventually, theyll succumb back to a theocracy or dictatorship. there is not one democratically elected government in the entire middle east. and there never is going to be one. |
Never say never :). |
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| gouuryella |
| Well we all know that Iraq cant be as democratic as US is, heck No one can, but i think there is a chance they will go on the right path, will take time, there isnt anything that can be done. |
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| Q5echo |
| quote: | Originally posted by ::TranceVanDyk::
so what makes you think this one will work? |
why? because of all of the other democratically elected governments that do work. its time, thats why.
why? because there have been no greater democracies in the history of the world than were born from the barrel of a gun. too many sacrifices have been made by the people who know what is better for them...not you.
i'm being mean. sorry. |
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| George Smiley |
| quote: | Originally posted by ::TranceVanDyk::
different place, different people, different beliefs, different time. eventually, theyll succumb back to a theocracy or dictatorship. there is not one democratically elected government in the entire middle east. and there never is going to be one. |
Apart from Israel, or Turkey, or Lebanon, or Iraq... |
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Will it work?
I don't think so, at least not anytime soon. There's too much unrest for stability created by the USA in the Middle East. It's obsurd to think that the country populated by a large number extremists that generally hate the Western world will be stabalised into a effective democracy...by...the poster country of Western civilisation.
:wtf:
Even if there are those there that appriciate what the USA is doing. |
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| ::TranceVanDyk:: |
| quote: | Originally posted by George Smiley
Apart from Israel, or Turkey, or Lebanon, or Iraq... |
two that i count as a stable democracy. two that are all but stable. and more than a dozen others that are rules islamic style. islam is not only a religion, but a way of life, and that also includes the governing bodies.
| quote: | why? because of all of the other democratically elected governments that do work. its time, thats why.
why? because there have been no greater democracies in the history of the world than were born from the barrel of a gun. too many sacrifices have been made by the people who know what is better for them...not you.
i'm being mean. sorry.. |
tell me the ratio of moslim countries that are democratically elected AND stable to those that arent. i was never saying what is better for the iraki people, im just telling you what i think is going to happen. you think its hell right now, once the americans pull out, the islamists are going to launch an all-out offensive. |
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| quote: | Originally posted by ::TranceVanDyk::
tell me the ratio of moslim countries that are democratically elected AND stable to those that arent. i was never saying what is better for the iraki people, im just telling you what i think is going to happen. you think its hell right now, once the americans pull out, the islamists are going to launch an all-out offensive. |
I'd say so. The only reason that democracy exists right now, is because there is a superior military force present enforcing it. Following the removal of trops (assuming they EVER leave :rolleyes: ) I won't be surprised to see everything go back to how it was, proving once and for all this war on terror and bringing freedome to another country across the world was in fact not the smartest idea ever, and an unneccessary waste of money.
Because we all know that already :p |
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| hardcore trancer |
| quote: | Originally posted by gouuryella
Well we all know that Iraq cant be as democratic as US is, heck No one can, but i think there is a chance they will go on the right path, will take time, there isnt anything that can be done. |
what if they dont want to be like in U.S? is that a problem? |
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