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Danny c - vapourise [PSY style TRANCE] feedback needed (pg. 2)
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| dannyc |
| axolotyl: i guess your right will only find out if i send it off. never even heard of those labels you mentioned there but i'll check em out. i wonder do psy records get much sales world wide or is it still very underground :conf: |
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| extalin |
WoW this song is amazing... i'm not even done listening to it yet...
something about these psychedelic influenced tracks are just wild!
omg it just got to around 4:44 and the composition is carrying so much energy i am being uplifted by it... man...
i really don't know what to say because i wasn't expecting to find such good music today from you and others... |
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| Axolotyl |
| quote: | Originally posted by dannyc
axolotyl: i guess your right will only find out if i send it off. never even heard of those labels you mentioned there but i'll check em out. i wonder do psy records get much sales world wide or is it still very underground :conf: |
Psy doesnt really get released on records. Individual releases get put on Various Artist compilations. A label will put out a CD every month or two. As a result its fairly easy for new artists to break into the scene with individual tracks. As for sales... dont know the exact numbers, but I'd say the big psy labels would be turning over quite a tidy profit. Its still underground (sorta), but it has a worldwide market rather than just europe and north america like commercial trance. Theres well developed scenes in mexico, south africa, russia, australia and india for example :) |
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| dannyc |
| worldwide market thats good to know, more people hearing my material, cool. thanks for info axolotyl i'll let ya know if i have any luck getting it signed ;) |
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| Jay M |
| Bass roll sounds very 'Fruitish' not really fond of it. You should make some more room for the hats I'd say, they're too far back and pushed away. Monotonish sound is annoying me to be honest. Lead sound in the break is absorbing some of the sounds, maybe check the EQ. Choir in the main break is pretty cool. Lead coming after that is ok. Overall I'm not catching your idea I think, let's keep it at this that I just dont like the style. |
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| dannyc |
extalin: appreciate the positive feedback man glad you liked the track have'nt heard anything from you in a while, any new stuff in the pipe line?
jay m: sorry you didnt like the style, i think the focus on repeditiveness is for itto work in a club environment. imagine amnesia ibiza smoke machines blast out and this tune in background hehe. anyway thats what i had in mind when i wrote it. :)
thanks for the mastering tips also. |
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| extalin |
there is always stuff in the pipeline ;) (finishing things is an art in itself and i'm trying to learn that art so i have tried to refrain from posting clips any more hehe)
earlier this summer i broke my processor / motherboard while trying to apply some better heat sink compound so i took a break for a little while except for playing around in reason on my dad's 700mhz IBM (there were actually some cool projects that were started because of that but i kept running out of cpu very quickly because i like to use tons of signal processing, but i still have all the projects and hopefully they'll be reopened).
luckily i've been blessed with some good fortune lately and my cousin let me borrow a 1.7 ghz dell machine so i've been using that. i still run out of cpu quickly on the dell, but i know it's no excuse not to be able to make full songs because people used to use trackers on some REALLY SLOW machines back in the day (and probably still do... the geniuses).
it's really about efficiency and creative ways of using tools to overcome physical limitations.
it just takes more thinking ahead of time because you have to commit to things before the entire song is finished... (i dream of the day when i compose an entire song with midi and don't have to bounce down until it's done).
i think it's actually a good thing that i'm having to use a slower machine than i would like because if i learn how to be more efficient now then, if god willing, i get a faster computer, i will be able to do WAY MORE than if had not learned to be efficient now.
so... here is a clip of something i am working on in reason (put on the back burner till after the remix competition). it is totally lacking of all the percs, fx, rhythmic bass, melodies, pads, etc. that i would like it to have to be finished, but this is an attempt to learn the basic stucture of the track and get it all down without running out of cpu first and stopping the project.
i'm actually pretty excited to finish this because i usually have a good bit of trouble laying out an entire track structure and i have some good ideas for adding the rest of the pieces (if you listen to it just imagine it with all the bells and whistles ;)).
http://www.extalin.com/tmpo |
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| dannyc |
cpu maxing out tell me about it man. i use reason 3 and i can never play the whole track back live without maxing out my cpu and i have a pretty good dell computer. this is one of the reasons that has made me reluctant to switch over to cubase sx. i can only imagine trying to run all those cpu hungry vsts i'd never get a track done :p
listened to your sample still alot more needs to go into it at this stage. i dug out your remix of oceanlab satalite forgot how amazing that remix was. seriously its so creative how you came up with that from listening to the original mix is beyond me :crazy: deep and emotional i'd like to hear something else from you along the lines of that remix.
really fantastic stuff, love when producers break the rules and dont just slap a few strings synths and bass together and call it a remix like all to many remixes ya hear on labels :rolleyes:
anyway hope you get the pc you need so you can continue on at the good standard you left off at. peace man ;) |
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| dannyc |
dj kane: sorry comrade missed your post there. yeah i noticed the shakers were arelittle off, i was just trying to fill up the mix a bit.
the only keyboard i use is the one on the side of my screen in reason :p just experiment til you find something you like thats what i done. glad you thought synths were superb. :)
anyone else got any feedback on this one for me??? |
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| Nomen Nescio |
Hey Danny C,
there are quite a few nice elements in your track, I love most of the percussion (that clap is awesome). The bass is nice but could be heavier.
The atmosphere in the track is great, doomy and serious. The break is nice and the choir sound is excellent. However it takes you a bit long to get to the break, 4 minutes of the same monotonous build up is a bit too much ;) The break itself also takes forever. Then as soon as the break ends and kick bass choir and lead come together the track is pretty good again. I was hoping for a melodic change with the lead though.
Overall it is a solid track but it drags on too much. Partly that is because you build up very long and partly that is because the melody is too monotonous.
Cheers! |
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| Romi |
I like your synthwork. Some really cool and dark sounds. The melodies are ok imo. What you have to work on is:
1: The percussion, it's very thin now, try to mix it better and maybe at some more hh's or something. Overall try to create a better groove.
2: The structure is a bit messy i think, it now gets a bit too repetitive at the end. Also the end is not very dj-friendly.
Well, not a bad track, i hope you can use some of my tips to make it better. |
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| dannyc |
nomen nescio: thanks for listening mate sorry it wasnt to yuor style, yeah melodies are defo one of my weaknesses. how can i get better with melodies can you play the keyboard? i'm thinking if i learned how to play the keyboard i'd be able to produce better more proffessional melodies :conf:
romi: thanks for the tips. its interesting you mention you felt in was a bit light on percussion, i actually thought i had too much percussion going on, its just i've noticed recently listening to the likes of asot alot of producers are moving away from lots of percussion in there tracks, i think a track sounds alot clearer when theres less percussion going on think its just a personal taste but pvd is a perfect example of this, in many of his remixes and tracks he plays theres literally on a kick bass 1 or 2 leads a open hat and clap going and it seems to work well. just an observation i've noticed.
structure wise yeah i think your right i forget that i want djs to play this so i gues you mean it fades out to quickly without enough time for a dj to mix. what tracks make use of a a more dj friendly structure in your opinion?
glad you liked the melodies and appreciate the good comments. btw you get technworld signed yet?? its defo a signing, :) |
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