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need some minor advice on beat matching
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| Audiomancer |
...hey fellas, Im not a newbie TA, however, Im new at posting here. Ive been spining records for a few years now, most of which was spend on bad tables. I finlly got some good tables (technics) and ive never looked back. I have notcied that, although my beat matching has improved greatly, its not where i think it should be at. ive been spining on technics for 1 year now, and its truly frustrating. can anyone here offer some advice, or maybe some practicing methods that will lead to better beatmatching? how long was it b4 you guys perfected it? thanks
need to break the slump here!
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| Street_Soldier |
first of all no one is perfect at it. once in awhile everyone messes up, everyone usually has to touch the record/table now and then.
just be patient, some days are good and some days just suck. |
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| Omega_Blue |
| all i gotta say is always use the pitch slider instead of putting pressure on the record.. it helped my mixing immensely |
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| BOOsTER |
I'm not spinning that much myself, but many people told me to try and match two same records...that it's a great practicing method...
I think you know about it, but hey if it's good to learn beatmatching...couldn't it be enough to develop it too? and if nothing you might make a nice remix of the track by mistake :D |
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| Omega_Blue |
| quote: | Originally posted by BOOsTER
I'm not spinning that much myself, but many people told me to try and match two same records...that it's a great practicing method...
I think you know about it, but hey if it's good to learn beatmatching...couldn't it be enough to develop it too? and if nothing you might make a nice remix of the track by mistake :D |
i would personally not do that. it may teach you to go through the motions of mixing, but if you match two of the same record, you don't "find" where the two songs are matched because they are the same tempo. might as well get some real practice with two different songs, because i doubt you're going to mix two of the same song together too often. |
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| Sound O fTrance |
What's wrong with putting pressure and touching the record to beatmatch? (i.e. constantly cueing and releasing to see if beats 'match')... is there any reason it is better to solely use the pitch slider and not touch the record?
And lets say you adjust ONLY with pitch slider... if you get both songs in sequence.. will they line-up eventually.. im guessing that is where some "touching" is involved? |
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| spdandpwr |
| putting pressure works but is incosistent and when you are playing out and are nervous, there is a possibility of over correcting. besides if you guess wrong and speed up a track instead of slowing it down then you can correct faster and fix it quicker than if you use your hands or whatever |
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| moondog |
| Using the pitch slider to make minor adjustments (pitch riding) is an advanced technique IMO, i can't do it yet. TBH my only advice is just to practice practice practice, you'll get there eventually. Some people just pick it up quicker than others, I've been spinning for 18 months (6 on techs) and i can beatmatch almost perfectly every time.:) |
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| DJ Xtracktor |
| quote: | Originally posted by moondog
Using the pitch slider to make minor adjustments (pitch riding) is an advanced technique IMO, i can't do it yet. TBH my only advice is just to practice practice practice, you'll get there eventually. Some people just pick it up quicker than others, I've been spinning for 18 months (6 on techs) and i can beatmatch almost perfectly every time.:) |
Quick question about the pitch sliding technique. I have mk2's and I bought them used, looks like theyve seen alot of action (I'm guessing a good 15 years), now playing on m3d's or M5G's I get a totally different feel in the pitch slider...would you think that its normal? or its just my pitch slider on the mk2s? Also, damn the pitch lock click!! :whip: |
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| moondog |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ Xtracktor
Quick question about the pitch sliding technique. I have mk2's and I bought them used, looks like theyve seen alot of action (I'm guessing a good 15 years), now playing on m3d's or M5G's I get a totally different feel in the pitch slider...would you think that its normal? or its just my pitch slider on the mk2s? Also, damn the pitch lock click!! :whip: |
i would inagine that they would become looser as they get older, but mine are only 18 months old, so i'm not sure |
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| dj spunk |
| quote: | Originally posted by Xtracktor
Quick question about the pitch sliding technique. I have mk2's and I bought them used, looks like theyve seen alot of action (I'm guessing a good 15 years), now playing on m3d's or M5G's I get a totally different feel in the pitch slider...would you think that its normal? or its just my pitch slider on the mk2s? Also, damn the pitch lock click!! :whip: |
Hey if you want I can talk to Elmar to have that looked at and he can remove your pitch lock |
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| Audiomancer |
thanks for the info fellas. i guess it doesnt really help that Im using some tired technics and Im legaly deaf in one ear. but i do what i can and im not too bad, just need some work. i will use the advice.
what technique do you guys use on the mixer while trying to match the beat? do you guys split the channels on the headset? use the cue/ master knob, so just play both tracks at the same time on the headset?
ive been using variuos methods, but its hard to get used to one or the other on some tracks. its hard spining with one good ear. |
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