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Iraq Body Count 27,000+ & Rising (pg. 3)
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| ChemEnhanced |
| Too much american media spewing too much american garbage for too many americans to hear. The only people who can truly judge what has gone on is outsiders. |
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| Lepanto |
| quote: | Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
Too much american media spewing too much american garbage for too many americans to hear. The only people who can truly judge what has gone on is outsiders. |
...lol are you retarded? the outsiders? OK I thought i knew about media but apperantly not. Would you care to explain where "outsiders" would get their information from? Hmm..their own media services, perhaps? Most likely. And is it not a fact that there's no such thing as liberal media? Yes, that's a fact. So every countries media services will be as much influenced by their own views and prespective as our own. Reply failed. |
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| ChemEnhanced |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lepanto
...lol are you retarded? the outsiders? OK I thought i knew about media but apperantly not. Would you care to explain where "outsiders" would get their information from? Hmm..their own media services, perhaps? Most likely. And is it not a fact that there's no such thing as liberal media? Yes, that's a fact. So every countries media services will be as much influenced by their own views and prespective as our own. Reply failed. |
Yes....outsiders....someone who is able to watch american and iraq media coverage and not being from either country or having a strong relationship towards either country can better judge the entire thing. In reality both sides are going to be one sided and the truth is somewhere between the two.
During the "attack on terrorism" aka "Gulf War 2" the Americans declared victory after 4 days....some victory....considering they will be there for years to come.
The iraq media coverage showed that the war hadn't even started yet and they were just getting prepared to fight....at that point the military was already two feet in the grave.
George Bush never had an exit plan put together....he figured that they would walk in there...take over and everyone would kiss his feet and he would be the saviour of the Iraq people. Little did he realize that a lot of people didn't want bush or the americans there. Look how many attacks on Americans there have been since the War...if you can even call it a war...has been over.
What is funny...is that during the war more American Allie troops were killed by themselves then killed by enemy fire. |
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| Googooly |
no offence but shouldnt this be in Polotic section?
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| Lepanto |
Not having a strong relationship...clearly Canada qualifies as not having a strong relationship with the US :haha:
Where does it say that more people were shot through friendly fire? Also, I will only except official documentation, or an equivalent from a newspaper site.
EDIT: any country in the western world would support the US Media over the radical Al-Jazeer or the bull hippie MIMRI |
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| ChemEnhanced |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lepanto
Not having a strong relationship...clearly Canada qualifies as not having a strong relationship with the US :haha:
Where does it say that more people were shot through friendly fire? Also, I will only except official documentation, or an equivalent from a newspaper site. |
I don't recall mentioning canada or any particular country....canada has very strong ties to america and canadians cannot be the ones to truly judge this. Considering canada was involved in this and helping the americans I would definately say we cannot judge this.
I am not talking just friendly fire but also the inability of pilots to fly the helicopters and crash them into the desert. Remeber we are only talking about the first week of the entire thing....the americans stated the war was over within less then aweek from the first attacks. In that time....there were 12 Ally Force members (so not just the precious americans) dead before the Iraq Military was able to kill one Ally Member. |
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| UWM |
| quote: | Originally posted by DiMethGuy
Freedom Checklist:
Afghanistan - Check
Iraq - Check
Iran - Up next
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Yikes you don't actually buy that do you? |
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| DiMethGuy |
| quote: | Originally posted by UWM
Yikes you don't actually buy that do you? |
Wouldn't have said it if I didn't mate. The end justifies the means, Bush is being Machiavellian. A free and stable middle east benefits everyone. Including the people bitching in this thread.
But if you wanna get on the tube and get blown to smitherines, by all means, we'll stop our pursuit of freedom, and you can pick up the pieces of your fellow countrymen, as we did on 9/11. |
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| Lepanto |
I remmember helicopters getting shot at and some crashing during the sandstorms that occur in the desert. Yes, British and other COALITION soldiers have died.
The war was over in a week, what do you mean? We defeated their little pathetic Army. Only honorless, worthless, beasts would fight hiding behind women and children while disciplined soldiers wouldn't tear them apart with AR or 50 cal fire. (incident of cowardice during the Fallujah offensive). |
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| Lopitrance |
Lots of stupid angry being posted here...
The only post I'm going to comment on is the one where the guy from Canada (I think) said the Chinese military would kick the American military's ass.
Wrong.
The Americans spend 300-400 billion on defence yearly, the Chinese spend 24 billion.
Man power does not decide wars or battles anymore, it's equipment and well trained soldiers.
Another thing, the Americans cant fight the Chinese for two reasons...
1) Too much trade between the two countries now, everyone forgets that without Americans buying Chinese goods the Chinese make no money.
2) They both have nukes. And China has a "No nuke first" policy, and I highly doubt the Americans would just nuke China.
And if you want I can offer you a bonus reason for why no war between the two would ever happen...
3) Chinese tend not to mess around in other peoples' business, and the Americans have no need for Chinese territory. (Apart from the ocean near Taiwan, which they'll be forced to give up once the Chinese build their navy)
Also to the same guy who bitched out Lepanto, I believe he wasnt just saying that people ONLY imigrate to the USA. But it is indeed true that the USA is usually #1 on their list of places to go, to start over.
A) Because of the weather.
B) Job opportunities.
C) Higher wages than (for instance) Canadian jobs. (Usually)
D) The chance to prosper, something that is significantly harder to do in Canada. (Despite our greatness, etc)
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Hardcore Trancer...
You're right about some stuff I suppose, but you have to realize some good will be done as a result of invading Iraq... Even if George Bush' plans were crooked and he just wanted the oil, the fact is progress is being made (To be fair it is slow) and there is no longer a Saddam to worry about. |
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| UWM |
| quote: | Originally posted by DiMethGuy
Wouldn't have said it if I didn't mate. The end justifies the means, Bush is being Machiavellian. A free and stable middle east benefits everyone. Including the people bitching in this thread.
But if you wanna get on the tube and get blown to smitherines, by all means, we'll stop our pursuit of freedom, and you can pick up the pieces of your fellow countrymen, as we did on 9/11. |
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Bush is being Machiavellian?
Cunning and deceitful. LOL, I'd say you hit that nail right on the head. |
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| DiMethGuy |
| quote: | Originally posted by UWM
:stongue: :stongue:
Bush is being Machiavellian?
Cunning and deceitful. LOL, I'd say you hit that nail right on the head. |
"There is nothing more difficult to take in hand, more perilous to conduct, or more uncertain in its success than to take the lead in the introduction of a new order of things."
~ Niccolo Machiavelli (1469-1527)
from The Prince, 1532
guess we'll agree to disagree, cause I like you, so I'll curb any desire to flame away. |
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