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| Reactance |
Can some please help me make a choice between these MIDI Controller keyboards ?
Take a look at my options :
Roland / Edirol PCR-50 USB MIDI Keyboard Controller
Features
49 full-sized, velocity sensitive keys
8 assignable rotary knobs (cut off, resonance, pan, tempo, etc.)
8 assignable faders (volume, EFX send, etc.)
9 assignable buttons (program change, track mute, start, stop, etc.)
1 sustain pedal connection
1 expression pedal connection
MIDI in & MIDI out
Pitch & Modulation controls (Newly redesigned to be linearly controlled for more accurate performance)
1 Preset Memory & 15 User Memory locations
USB Bus powered or AC adaptor
Template sheets for controls
Specifications
Keyboard
49 Velocity Sensitive Keys
Controller
Memory Button
MIDI Channel Button
Program Change Button
Edit Button
V-LINK Button
Octave Shift Button (+/-)
Transpose Button
Assignable Button (B1--6, L1--3)
Bender/Modulation Lever
Assignable Rotary Volume (R1--8)
Assignable Slider (S1--8)
Assignable Pedal (P1--2)
Display
7 segments, 3 characters (LED)
Power Indicator
Connectors
Hold Pedal Jack
Expression Pedal Jack
MIDI Jacks (IN/OUT)
USB Jack
DC IN Jack
Rear Panel
Power Switch (USB BUS/OFF/DC IN)
Power Supply DC 9 V (AC Adaptor) or USB Bus Powered
Current Draw
300 mA (AC Adaptor)
300 mA (USB Bus Power)
Dimensions
833 (W) x 232 (D) x 86.4 (H) mm 32-13/16 (W) x 9-3/16 (D) x 3-7/16 (H) in.
Weight
2.4 kg / 5 lbs 5 oz (excluding AC adaptor)
Accessories
AC Adaptor (ACP Series)
CD-ROM
USB Cable
Owner's Manual
Template Sheets (GM2/BLANK)
Options
Pedal Switch: DP-2/6
Expression Pedal: EV-5/7
The Edirol PCRM50 is a revised version of the popular PCR-50 MIDI Keyboard Controller. Like the Edirol PCR-50, the Edirol PCR-M50 offers direct connection to the computer through USB, 49-Keys, 27 assignable MIDI controllers, a software editor, MIDI input and output, and both sustain and expression pedal connections. Some advancement the Edirol PCRM50 has made over the PCR-50 includes the addition of velocity curves, switchable MIDI interface, and a new key-action found on Roland's higher-end synths. The Edirol PCR M50's key-action has been refined to produce even less mechanical noise than its predecessor and offer a consistent, playable feel. The keys themselves are slightly more rounded to keep your fingers from tripping over the keys during quick glissandi. The Pitchbend/Modulation has a new rubber coating for easier grip.
Edirol PCRM50 - High Quality Mechanism for the Serious Player
With a newly designed key mechanism --- taken from Roland's 30 years of synthesizer development --- players can control a wide dynamic range with incredible subtlety. The re-designed key assemblies have a rounded shape for better reaction to the player’s touch and more comfortable glissando, plus changes have been made to reduce the already low mechanical noise of the Edirol PCR-80 and eliminate vertical shake on the key strokes. The newly developed pitch bend and modulation design offers you easier and more expressive control. All these features add up to a keyboard that even the most discerning player can appreciate.
Edirol PCR-M50 - Comprehensive Connectivity for Maximizing Player's Performance
Connect everything with one USB cable. Since the power is supplied from the computer, no AC adaptor is needed. The same USB connection provides MIDI IN and OUT ports that allow the keyboard to function as a MIDI interface to other external MIDI devices. It addition to this, all the information from keys and controllers can be sent through the MIDI OUT port so that you can control both software and external MIDI devices at the same time (MIDI Interface mode = OFF). With the interface mode turned on, the PCR-M80/Edirol PCR-M50/M30 can control multiple applications at the same time. Control your DAW (Digital Audio Workstation) and software synthesizer at the same time. The MIDI processing in the PCRM80/Edirol PCRM50/M30 is compatible with FPT (Fast Processing Technology). This technology doesn't depend on music application you are using. It provides stable, high speed, low latency, and low jitter MIDI transmission.
Edirol PCR-M50 - 27 Individual Fully-assignable Controllers
The PCRM80/Edirol PCR-M50/M30 provides you with 8 knobs, 8 sliders, 9 buttons, and 2 pedal ports. These controllers can be assigned to any MIDI message, Control Change (CC), RPN, NRPN, System Exclusive and more. You get to choose what parameters to control in your MIDI hardware and software to create the perfect playing environment.
Edirol PCR-M50 - Twelve Selectable Velocity Curve Combinations
Pick from 12 velocity curves to precisely match your playing style. As the PCRM80/Edirol PCRM50/M30 has 4 different velocity curves and 3 kinds of sensitivity (Light, Medium, and Heavy), the player can find the combination that perfectly suits them and can produce the precise MIDI performance and programming of a true professional.
In addition a Fixed Velocity Mode is provided where the PCR-M80/Edirol PCR-M50/M30 always outputs a fixed velocity (from 1 to 127) providing practical input for drum and percussion programming in step recording.
Edirol PCR-M50 - PCR Editor software and Downloadable Memory Sets (Control Maps) on the web
The Edirol PCR M50 works with all major music applications, and are equipped with user memory locations to store up to 15 different control maps. PCR Editor software for use with the Edirol PCRM50 is included. The PCR Editor allows for extensive and convenient control of the PCR keyboards from a PC or Mac. The PCR Editor is designed to assist in creating control maps for the PCR and allow users to quickly and easily make assignments to any of the 27 assignable controls. This powerful software also allows the user to copy system exclusive messages for the PCR into a sequence so the controls can be mapped or changed during a sequence. In addition to offering easy implementation of different MIDI messages, the PCR Editor also allows the user to specify minimum and maximum values for each control. Supports Win98/Me/2000/XP, Mac OS X & Mac OS 9.x.
Edirol PCR M50 New Features
* Newly developed keyboard mechanism comfort to MI keyboards for musicians
* High quality improved keyboard assembly --- ultra-low mechanical noise
* 12 velocity curve selections for delicate musical nuance
* More comfortable reactions in the new keys
* Switchable MIDI Interface
* Cool, black (titanium dark gray) body color
* As a real musical instrument, not as a computer peripheral
Edirol PCRM50 Main Features
* 49 Velocity-sensitive keys
* High Quality Keyboard Mechanism
* 12 Velocity Curves and Fixed Velocity Mode
* 27 Fully-assignable Controls: 8 Knobs, 8 Sliders, 9 Switches, and 2 Pedal Ports
* Rubber-coated Pitch Bend/Modulation Lever
* One GM2 and 15 User Memory Set Locations
* FPT Low-latency MIDI Transmission
* PCR Editor Software
* USB Powered or AC Adaptor (Included)
* Switchable MIDI Interface Mode
* MIDI IN/OUT Ports
* Sustain and Expression Pedal Ports
* V-LINK
Edirol PCRM50 Main Specifications
Keyboard
49 Velocity Sensitive Keys
Controller
Memory Button
MIDI Channel Button
Program Change Button
Edit Button
V-LINK Button
Octave Shift Button (+/-)
Transpose Button
Assignable Button (B1--6, L1--3)
Bender/Modulation Lever
Assignable Rotary Volume (R1--8)
Assignable Slider (S1--8)
Assignable Pedal (P1--2)
Memory Set
Preset: 1 (GM2)
User: 15
Display
7 segments, 3 characters (LED)
Power Indicator
Rear Panel
Power Switch (USB BUS/OFF/DC IN)
Connectors
Hold Pedal Jack
Expression Pedal Jack
MIDI Jacks (IN/OUT)
USB Jack (B type)
DC IN Jack
Power Supply
DC 9 V (AC Adaptor) or USB Bus Powered
Current Draw
300 mA (AC Adaptor)
300 mA (USB Bus Power)
Dimensions
600 (W) x 232 (D) x 86.5 (H) mm, 23-
5/8 (W) x 9-3/16 (D) x 3-7/16 (H) inches
Weight
2.4 kg / 5 lbs 5 oz (excluding AC adaptor)
Features:
>Function buttons make programming quick and easy, even while you're playing. Instantly program any of the 30 MIDI assignable controllers with MIDI channels, Bank LSB/MSB, RPN/NRPN, program change, recall and storing of presets plus more.
>Independent channel assign for all 30 controllers.
> Unique controller mute function mutes the output of all controllers allowing you to position them to the value you want before tweaking.
No more annoying jumping filters or levels during your performance.
> Back-lit LCD display shows stacks of controller information. The visual feedback ensures that no programming or operation is done blindly,
whether on stage or in a dark studio.
> 10 MIDI assignable buttons that double up as an essential data entry pad.
>Global channel assign allows any given set of controllers to control up to 16 different channels at the touch of a button, while others can keep their channel setting.
> Snap Shot mode sends out current status for all controllers.
> 10 memory locations for storing user setups.
> Memory dump facility.
> Sys-Ex librarian software allows PC users to load, save, send and receive any combination of setups for your studio.
> Pitchbend and mod wheels are both MIDI assignable for unique thumb control effects.
> Separate octave shift buttons provides instant access to 10 octaves. A double press function transposes the keyboard.
>Foot switch socket can be used with any polarity switch and is fully MIDI assignable.
Software included:
>SysEx Librarian (PC only)
>Sound Studio II (PC only)
Keyboard Requirements
>PC/Mac or MIDI hardware with USB or MIDI In.
Dimensions (cm):
80 x 21 x 10
Now what do i take :conf: :conf: :conf: :conf: :conf: :conf:
THIS
THIS
OR THIS
Thanks in advance !
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| Zombie0915 |
I have the 3rd one, the evolution. I like it.
But those edirol keyboards have an interesting looking modulation control thingy. It seems you have a tradeoff between more knobs abd keys, and perhaps higher quality feel with the roland device but with fewer knobs and keys. I will say that the evolution is all hard hollow plastic, and the edirol probably would feel a little nicer to touch. That one line in your spec that said it felt like a musical instrument was pretty interesting. To me my evolution feels like a computer peripheral, but I dont consider that a bad thing. If only you could compare all three in person and really be able to tell if the edirol actually feels better to touch. I find that I dont use all the keys on my board, I just step record once-handed, but it is nice not having to switch octaves so much and just moving my hand along the keyboard instead.
They all appear to have the same capabilities, it really depends on how the edirol feels compared to the evolution, and if that feel is worth sacrificing a few knobs and keys and maybe the price increase. I have never felt an edirol before but I was considering buying one before I heard about the evolution. I think you would be good with any one of these 3. |
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| djyouth |
Of those, I'd recommend the Evolution Mk-449C, but unless you're doing live performances, I'd rather recommend something simpler, like M-Audio Keystation 49e. But if you still want better control over your DAW, lets say you want to automate/control several FX / Audio channels, I recommend M-Audio Radium 49. It has 16 assignable midi controllers. More than you'll ever manage to control at once.. Unless you want ten people to use it at the same time. ;)
I recommend Evolution MK-449C, if you need all of its functions.
Good luck! :)
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| Reactance |
| quote: | | I will say that the evolution is all hard hollow plastic, and the edirol probably would feel a little nicer to touch. |
I really like the Edirol PCRM50 it looks very neat but looks can be raelly deceiving and in my case i dont wanna spend money on something i dont like,
Does anyone here own a Edirol PCRM50 give me some feedback !
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| DigiNut |
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| Subtle |
| Take the Edirol PCR 50.. |
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| Reactance |
Check out this baby !
Novation hasn't just re-written the book with the new ReMOTE 61 controller, they've ripped it up and started again. The portable RemMOTE 61 features one of the best 61-key semi-weighted keyboard actions around, a programmable pitch / mod / control wheel that is a delight to use, and a cool 'touchpad' for wild performance effects. If all that weren't enough, the Novation ReMOTE 61 includes dozens of pre-programmed templates for the most popular software plug-ins and traditional hardware instruments so you can use it straight out of the box.are instruments so you can use it straight out of the box.
Novation ReMOTE 61 At A Glance:
* 61-key Semi Weighted USB/MIDI Keyboard with Aftertouch.
* 8 Rotary Pots, 8 Sliders, 8 Rotary Encoders, 24 Progammable Switches.
* Built In USB / MIDI Interface.
A semi-weighted 5 octave keyboard action
At the heart of the ReMOTE 61 is a superb action, semi-weighted keyboard with aftertouch. Unlike many controllers, you can play your favourite software synth or sampler with the care and precise control that can make a huge difference to the final performance.
Hands on responsive control for every application
The front panel of the ergonomically designed Novation ReMOTE 61 is inviting and simple to use. And it's all there - 8 rotary potentiometers, 8 sliders, 8 rotary encoders and 24 switches that are entirely programmable. All of the ReMOTE 61's controls can be named and memorised as a collection with a group template name, then saved in any one of the 64 template memories.
Built In USB / MIDI Interface
Novation ReMOTE 61 ships with both Windows and Mac OSX USB MIDI drivers; just plug into the USB port, install the driver software and the Novation ReMOTE 61 is fully operational. Alternatively if your computer system does not have USB then simply plug into the MIDI ports. The ReMOTE 61 provides two MIDI Out ports, one MIDI thru port and one MIDI In port. Information originating from the ReMOTE 61's keyboard or its controls can be sent directly to the USB port and / or any of the MIDI out ports. The ReMOTE 61's MIDI ports can be used to integrate the rest of your MIDI gear into your computer system. Cool.
Novaton ReMOTE 61 Features:
* 5 Octave Semi-Weighted high quality Aftertouch responsive Keyboard
* Portable - Runs for over 18 hours on 6x C-size dry batteries (9 hours on rechargeables). Can also be powered from USB or external PSU
* 64 User programmable templates, each with over 60 parameters. Over 50 templates factory preset for packages including Reason, Native Instruments, Cubase, Logic etc.
* Supplied with coloured ident strips customised to applications or user defined
* Pitch bend and programmable mod wheel joystick mechanism with user selectable static or spring loaded mod wheel action
* Programmable X/Y touch pad surface for simultaneous control of multiple parameters
* 24 buttons, 8 knobs, 8 encoders and 8 sliders assignable to each template
* Backlit Blue / Silver LCD display for realtime parameter view
* Built in MIDI / USB interface. Can be used as stand alone controller or as an interface
* Dedicated transport controls and four 'fast template select' function buttons
* Ships with USB/MIDI drivers for Windows 98SE, ME, 2000 and XP and Mac OSX. |
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| Zombie0915 |
that keyboard is very pretty
how much does it cost? |
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| Reactance |
| quote: | | that keyboard is very pretty |
Yeah man i know really is hey, I dont know the price cause i called one of my local dealers and they said they will have it by next week.
Seems like they dont stock Edrol controllers.Anyway the novation will go nice with my v - station and my bassstation :) |
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| jdat |
Instead of starting a new thread I'll just add this in here which follows the similar subject matter.
So I'm looking for a master keyboard. I want it small so I can transport is easily and midi i/o's are something I'd very much appreciate ( usb seems to replace the midi i/o's too often on these smaller keyboards)
I have looked around and apart from also really wanting knob controls and potential some pads I have found the
Alesis Photon X25 to be my fav.
I admit it's maybe caught my eye a little bit so I feel that's why I got a higher preference for it...
here's a list of features:
49 semi-weighted velocity-sensitive keys with aftertouchw00t!!
* Durable aluminum body
* Pitch and modulation wheels
* 8 assignable knobs with preset functions: cutoff, resonance, attack, release, pan, reverb, chorus, tempo
* 9 assignable sliders with preset functions: volume for 1-16 channels, master volume, drawbar
* LED display
* Dedicated play, stop, record, forward, and reverse transport controls That's awesome :D
* Breath controller port
* MIDI out
* USB/MIDI port
* M-Lan compatible FireWire audio expansion port
http://www.alesis.com/product.php?id=15
It also has an audio in/out! :)
Anyone got any better suggestions?  |
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| Zombie0915 |
| what is the ball shaped thing on the top left? |
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| mef |
| quote: | Originally posted by Zombie0915
what is the ball shaped thing on the top left? |
Looks similar to AirFX to me :conf: |
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