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Feedback/brainstorm thread for the new ID Contest
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| Sand Leaper |
Since the concept of this comp has gone for a long time now, I figured it was time to hear you people out for changes or alterations to the structure of the comp that could improve it or add some variation. Personally, I find it hard to do so without alienating some potential contestants, but hopefully you people will have some ideas in mind.
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| Fundamental |
| More tables! :p |
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| rory21 |
| Maybe mix the tracks together, sort of like a miegamix effort. Will when I say mix I don't mean a big 4min crossfade between the 2. If you playing like a minute of each track, surley there is enough time to mix them. Get one of the producers on the forum to do it digitally in traktor/ableton, etc. |
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| DRM |
| i think that the problem of a track with a remix gets 3 points while an original mix only getting 2 points is a problem, as potentially someone could id an extra 5 tunes or something but still end up behind someone. Im not convinced just giving out 3 points for a fully identified original mix is really the best solution but i cant think of any other method that could work. |
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| THE_Chris |
I always wanted to do one and change the structure a bit, but Ill never win so Ill give my suggestions -
Give more points :D Do it this way -
Easy IDs - Worth 10 points each overall. Have 10 of them. Simple tracks that everyone should get 80% of. Like Gouryella tracks, Silence (tiesto mix), Cafe del Mar, really easy ones.
Medium IDs - Worth 20 points each overall. Have 25 of them. Fairly ok ones, most people should get 30-50% of. Say 3rd Earth, Nu NRG tracks, things like that that you'd recognise, but would have to spend time digging to get their names.
Hard IDs - Worth 30 points each overall. Have 15 of them. Difficult tracks like obscure classics, old stuff, things that most people wouldnt recognise. People should only get 3 or 4 of them easily. Would be the ones that would seperate the winners. Challenging stuff.
Impossible IDs - Worth 50 points each overall. Have 2 of them. Only need a few, make these really really hard. Like go to an old obscure ambient psy album and pick the 6th track, like this -> http://www.psyshop.com/shop/CDs/spt/spt1cd908.html . Make it so that if anyone can ID either of them, its a miracle. But itd be a challenge and everyone would still try to crack them.
Liveset IDs - Worth 15 or 20 points each. Have about 5 of them. Every liveset sounds different, and people who know their stuff can hear the sample, recognise the tune, and recognise the liveset the sample is taken from ( I frequently hear samples in the ID comps and get the name by recognising the liveset and getting the tracklist, not by recognising the track directly ). Points are given for the track name and the name/date/dj who played the liveset.
My 2 cents as to what Id do if I ever won an ID comp, and hell thats never gonna happen :D |
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| THE_Chris |
| quote: | Originally posted by DRM
i think that the problem of a track with a remix gets 3 points while an original mix only getting 2 points is a problem, as potentially someone could id an extra 5 tunes or something but still end up behind someone. Im not convinced just giving out 3 points for a fully identified original mix is really the best solution but i cant think of any other method that could work. |
Agreed. Each track should get an equal number of points.
Say each was worth 3 points.
Say - Dreamcatcher - I Don't Wanna Lose My Way (Magik Muzik Dub) <- 3 points
Or - DJ Fire - Jetlag <- 3 points
But - Dreamcatcher - I Don't Wanna Lose My Way (the wrong name Dub) <- only 2 points.
So give each track 3 points, no matter what, but take a point off if the remix is wrong, NOT the way its done now. |
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| Floorfiller |
| i'd agree on the 2 points for originals vs 3 points for remixes. perhaps a way to fix that would be to only give a 3rd point if they label it original mix. if however they label a mix incorrectly, they are subtracted a point from their total score. i think that would stop people from labelling tracks original mix randomly... |
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| Grrrrr |
I think the main problem with the ID contest is Genre's. If you get 3 different people to each choose 15 or 20 songs all from one genre then combine them into the ID contest we all see. So (for example) the first 20tracks will be trance, next 20 will be eurodance and the last 20 will be psy. Keep all scoring the same.
Gives a wider number of people a chance to put up a half decent score and with different genres each month it will stop the same people doing well each time. |
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| Floorfiller |
| quote: | Originally posted by Grrrrr
I think the main problem with the ID contest is Genre's. If you get 3 different people to each choose 15 or 20 songs all from one genre then combine them into the ID contest we all see. So (for example) the first 20tracks will be trance, next 20 will be eurodance and the last 20 will be psy. Keep all scoring the same.
Gives a wider number of people a chance to put up a half decent score and with different genres each month it will stop the same people doing well each time. |
i agree with this to an extent because most of the time i am not familiar with the genre's that are posted...however the people that keep winning it's because they're just ing good at all the genres ahahah...so i dunno... |
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| THE_Chris |
Also no offence to the people who are winning, theyre doing great, but isnt it getting to the stage where the same people are winning them most of the time?
I know for a fact Ill do no good in Jans one , so it takes the fun out of it a bit :( We need new people to win it. :D
and people whos competition I can win |
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| DJAntSmith |
I agree with trying to get new people do do it. Maybe we should have 2 id contests.
Newbie & Advanced for example. I'm at IDing some of the current contests but if there were 2 parallel contests running, and say, you could only enter 1 of them, then this may make it more fun for those of us who are at IDing.
I'd say the advanced one would carry on as it does already, and the easier one, more with the types of tunes that we all (most of us) actually buy. Whether it be a classic or a new release. |
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| Floorfiller |
| but i'll still just enter the advanced one because of ego and i'll still lose and never make a contest :stongue: |
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