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| dinoXpress |
| quote: | Originally posted by Floorfiller
obesity is not a disease...that's just what fat people say to justify a lazy lifestyle and excuse their disgusting bodies... |
isnt their lifestyle a disease?
its not in the traditional sense.. but it is! |
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| Azz3D |
| quote: | Originally posted by dinoXpress
obesity is arguably a disease..
a medical condition no doubt. |
hehe
reminds me of that denis leary stand up act
"oh i'm not over eating! i'm trying to keep the virus at bay!" |
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| Floorfiller |
| quote: | Originally posted by dinoXpress
isnt their lifestyle a disease?
its not in the traditional sense.. but it is! |
if a lack of motivation and terrible self worth is a disease then i guess so...
i just see obesity as a choice and i don't feel any sort of sympathy for them... |
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| dinoXpress |
| quote: | Originally posted by josh4
maybe a medical condition but not a disease
you hear things like that from people 'suffering' from the condition as if they're a victim and cant help it. alcoholism is also often called a disease but medical experts refuse to acknowledge these claims.
if you think about the qualifications of a disease, the person suffering from it has no control over what is happening to them. when you're sick say with a virus, you're sick and thats it. you can take medication and seek treatment but you can't directly affect the disease yourself.
obesity and alcoholism are behaviors. in order to 'suffer' from them you have to physically pick up the cheese burger or beer and put it in your mouth. if you stop doing this then you stop suffering. so all it takes is will power
so in conclusion, fat people have no one to blame but themselves. which is why its okay to make ugly faces at them, call them names, and throw rotten eggs.
because how else are they going to learn people... how else are they going to learn |
true.. im actually a solid believer we should bitch at fat people for being unealthy.. just like smokers.. lol people bitch at us all the time! |
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| UWM |
| quote: | Originally posted by josh4
alcoholism [is] a behavior. in order to 'suffer' from them you have to physically pick up the beer and put it in your mouth. if you stop doing this then you stop suffering. so all it takes is will power |
I don't remember whether or not it was you I was arguing with about this before, but true alcoholism is a disease. If you don't 'physically pick up the beer' you can die. Your body has become accustomed to alcohol for proper function in a capacity similar to that of air or water.
This is not to argue, however, that there is not an 'alcoholic' that is strictly a state of being. |
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| UWM |
| quote: | Originally posted by josh4
wasn't me. that may be true but it doesnt mean its a disease. unhealthy behaviors can have detremental effects on a person's condition. smoking is a behavior, but just because you get addicted doesnt turn it into a disease |
Cancer is a disease, and in some cases is a direct result of cigarette smoking. |
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| Moral Hazard |
| quote: | Originally posted by Floorfiller
boy those canadians...they're really making breakthroughs up there...good show ol' boys! |
Hey smartass... the research was done in US by US researchers on US subjets. The only Canadian connection is that the results were revealed at a convention being held in Vancouver. Read better please. |
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| UWM |
| quote: | Originally posted by Moral Hazard
Hey smartass... the research was done in US by US researchers on US subjets. The only Canadian connection is that the results were revealed at a convention being held in Vancouver. Read better please. |
Hmm someone hit a nerve? |
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| Moral Hazard |
| Speaking as a former fat kid I can tell you that obiesity is not a disease, it is a symptom of numerous other conditions (potentially both physical and psychological). There is no specific pathology that causes obiesity therefore it is not a disease. It is easily overcome if one is trully dedicated to doing so.... I lost 110 pounds in 4 months... it requires disipline, a good plan, and a good support system but the only difficult part is maintaining the will power to do it. |
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| Moral Hazard |
| quote: | Originally posted by UWM
Hmm someone hit a nerve? |
I just get upset by misdirected slander. |
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| UWM |
"Blame Canada, Blame Canada, They're not even a real country anyyywayyyyyyy!"
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| UWM |
| quote: | Originally posted by Moral Hazard
I lost 110 pounds in 4 months... it requires disipline, a good plan, and a good support system |
And copious amounts of methamphetamines! |
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