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buying synthesizers (pg. 4)
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@dark sword: hhahahaha what the fuk?! 1475 pounds! hahahaha.
the price tag should include helicopter rental.
i really admire how yamaha just wanted to hand make the most fuking awesome ultimate synth, and bugger all the hobbyist musicians who cant fit one in their living room.
shows they really cared about making something special. from what i read the gx and cs80 are really special synths. id love to play on one at some point. but i dont know anyone that has one :(
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| quote: | | but im sure ill do fine, im in univesity now doing my 3rd year math major, im sure i can figure out a silly synth... |
mathematicians != musicians
just because you are good at maths doesnt mean when it comes to programming a synth. you may understand some of workings of the synth. for instance, how to change the filter envelope decay curve by recursively modulating the filter decay in the mod matrix. or maybe you dont. point is, you dont know how it will sound like. how it will behave when doing this. in the end its an instrument. not a calculator. you can start by dropping the arrogance.
with that out of the way, theres plenty of virtual analogues that dont break the bank and which are more user friendly than the virus.
the nord lead 2 is one of them although the keyboard version is still expensive and the keyboard isnt really very good. it has a spongey action and no aftertouch. meh.
roland jp8000/jp8080 is also alot easier than the virus to use. much less modulation capabilities making it less versatile but more immediate to use. plus it has the pedigree (read: infamy) of being the synth responsible for *THAT* trance sound. some people love it. some people hate it with a vengeance. around here though, people like azndragon build temples in their mind around it ;)
novation k-station is really easy to program too and it rips but lacks the flexibility of the virus.
overall im glad i bought my virus. its one of my fav synths. but im also glad i had a year's practice programming refx vanguard which is in my mind the most intuitive synth interface ever. one of the best introductions to subtractive synthesis. and it can make a wide variety of hard trancey type sounds.
my advice. get triangle 2 now. get a free sequencer like buzzmachines. over the next month or 2 practice with triangle 2 building sounds from scratch, dissecting patches and reading up about subtractive synthesis during the day. at night, ebay a virus b keyboard. dont buy the first one that comes along. look for the best deal. you should get a full sized virus kB for under £500 sterling. it should also be in excellent condition. aside from the buttons viruses are built like tanks.
and before you do make a purchase. please. go down to a turnkey or any music store which has one. try it before you buy it. some people just hate some of the annoying stuff about the virus. ill even admit that many aspects of the synth piss me off. like the useless multimode. the non global reverb/delay. making multimode even crapper if you use effects in your patches. the fact that you have to spend ages looking into this tiny backlit submenu flicking through options to slowly build up a sound. some people really hate that last bit. if you can perservere and you like bass then the virus is for you. some people just love switching on the nord leads though and letting rip with a huge unison FM lead, completely hands on without sub menu flicking. some people just wont let go and have to go buy a dave smith poly evolver. people who just love knobby analogue keyboards and even the virus doesnt do it for them. shrugs. |
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| nzo |
| If you have to buy a hw synth, get a Virus B - it's a great buy for the price and will do almost anything you might ask of it. |
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| Limit |
| for those of you who haven't heard a Yamaha CS-80, try the G-media CS-80...its an emulated VSti of that big bastard...and almost sounds the same. |
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| IDarkISwordI |
| quote: | Originally posted by Limit
for those of you who haven't heard a Yamaha CS-80, try the G-media CS-80...its an emulated VSti of that big bastard...and almost sounds the same. |
I think youre thinking of Arturia's CS-80V. It does sound amazing. Some of the best pads and bass a synth in hardware and by far one of the best in software. |
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| Limit |
| yes you are right...I'm not a big software user. Thanks for the correction. |
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| serban |
| so i downloaded triangle 2... do i need a midi keyboard in order to generate any sound, how does this work... im not getting any sound out of the synth... haha |
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depends on what host you are using. which host are you using?
you dont need a midi keyboard to playback sounds. you can click notes into the piano roll within your host. alternatively, if you have fl studio, you can use your typing keyboard as a 2 octave keyboard. failing that, there are applications you can buy which allow you to use your typing keyboard to play synths in any host.
a little more information on what you are running would help us out. |
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| serban |
| im using sonic foundry acid pro 4.0... would that work? |
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of course. am i right in saying you have assigned triangle 2 a unique midi channel and have added it to your project?
in which case check the internal mixer on your soundcard and make sure the volume sliders are up. check that you are sending audio through the right outputs (if you have more than 2).
select any patch in the synth and put in a few notes into the piano roll. set it to loop. you should hear a sound. im not familiar with acid but i dont think you can play notes using your typing keyboard. you can however, click the notes into the piano roll and set it to playback a score that you put into the piano roll.
also check that acid is set to use your soundcard outputs and the correct driver. ASIO if you have it, or multi out. |
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| serban |
| What do you guys think of the Nord Lead NL2X... It has a decent price of $1000... im just wondering whether it has the deep, dark, trancey sound im looking for in a synth... tell me what u think and whether uve ever used it... thanks... |
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| serban |
| Then theres also the Korg MS2000B sitting around $750, but i wonder if it has enough polyphony... |
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| serban |
| One more thing... I'm still kind of leaning toward the Virus classic, which is about $800, and buying a midi keyboard separately... now do i need a specific one, or any kind of midi keyboard will work with the virus synth module... also if u have any preferences between the virus and the nord tell me, which one do u think would go best with my kind of music, cuz theyre pretty much the same price... thanks.... |
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