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france : success for this new muslim fast food ... (pg. 2)
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| Lepanto |
doesn't a' salam aleikum mean "blessed be you" ? lol
we have that here EVERYWHERY, halal meat, Jewish diners, etc. Kosher food owns and i find that most people there aren't Jewish or anything. Been to a muslim place a few times, tasted bad, unless it's Turkish/Greek place then it kicks ass (i put them together beacuse alot of their 'unique' food is similair to the other).
I don't see a problem with that because it's a good way to make money of people. I think they made a mistake of saying it's a muslim diner not a muslim tradition diner or something. Same way here, people wouldn't say Jewish McDonalds but they'd say Kosher Diner. Get my drift? |
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| svens_bath |
| quote: | Originally posted by Fir3start3r
That's what I love about Toronto.
At any time I can go downtown have this huge selection of Vietnamese, Chinese, Etheopian, Japanese, Western Indian, Eastern Indian, Pakistani, Middle Eastern and of course North American style food.
I love them all. :)
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i wish my city was more like this..there are specialist restaurants, but there few in number and scattered all over. would love to be able to walk through town and get more of a selection than subway and indian.
as for this issue, nowt wrong in my book. multiculturalism works because the different people can have dual cultures, with the 'host' nation identity and the 'home' nation identity coexisting. total uniformity is forced and pointless imo. |
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| wizniz |
| MORE POWER FOR BUERGER KINGGGGG |
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| Floorfiller |
marie i think what you're getting at is that in the united states for instance and in lots of other countries you have disctricts that are primarily italian or primarily asian or primarily whatever. these areas are never really implemented by the government, but instead have historical roots in the forming of cities and immigration etc etc. anyway enough with the histroy lesson haha :p
i think that it could be a good idea. definitely taking advantage of a tarket market of people is a good idea. i think the real issue here that people don't seem to really be focusing on is...in a secular society...where it is inappropriate to blend religion and business, is this doing that? obvoiusly there are pro's and con's for both sides, but at least in my oppinion i don't really think that this is a contradicting situation because they aren't actually using this resturaunt to practice the religion. the fact that they are dressing in traditional muslim attire and greating customers a certain way just suggests a theme...and isn't trying to influence the customer base in any way so i'd have to say that it doesn't infringe on the ideas of a secular society. |
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| George Smiley |
| quote: | Originally posted by h0tsweetbabyd0l
hey erik u for example do u have a muslim chain fast food?or something like that? |
England has absolutely loads of Muslim fast food places! In fact the vast majority of fast food places in the UK are Muslim! Great food! |
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| George Smiley |
| quote: | Originally posted by h0tsweetbabyd0l
i know in countries like US or UK u have what we call in french "le communautarisme" which means asian ppl will go and live to these areas while white people will be somewhere else ... |
Thats true ish but paints a bit of a warped picture of hopw it really is. There are obviously areas that are predomenantly one or the other like everywhere in the world! it's just how it is. The place I live in L**ds (Leeds) is either students or asians (Pakistanis/Indians - not east asia) but its not like people live there becuase asians live there (or even live elsewhere cos of it) People dont move there because of the demographics they already live there cos thats where they settled in the 50s when they (or their grandparents) arrived in the UK |
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| h0tsweetbabyd0l |
thank you everyone for your replies ....it's really interesting and i have to admit that i agree with most of you !
first time we have a muslim fast food in france except that we have what we call shish kebab it's a sandwich with meat and french fries and it's pretty good (except once in my town an owner of this kind of shop has been arrested because instead of putting the "white sauce " he was putting his sperm :nervous:)
but yeah in paris we got the chinatown area and the african one and some others probably
here in bordeaux we got the saint michel area with arabs and some africans but i think it's pretty cool to have different cultures areas and that's what i loved when i visited NYC ..... |
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| George Smiley |
| quote: | Originally posted by h0tsweetbabyd0l
thank you everyone for your replies ....it's really interesting and i have to admit that i agree with most of you !
first time we have a muslim fast food in france except that we have what we call shish kebab it's a sandwich with meat and french fries and it's pretty good ( |
Ah the staple English diet...
10 pints of Stella then a greasy Kebab with cilli sauce!! |
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| ali92 |
| quote: | Originally posted by h0tsweetbabyd0l
so i've just read an article in my magazine called challenge its about economy and there were talking about "beurger king muslim" beur in french slang means "arab" and in july 2005 opened this new fast food in clichy -sous- bois (93)...same prices than Mc donalds same settings but the difference is that the women who work there are veiled and tell "salam aleikoum" (hi) when they are talking
the food is somewhat different since the meat is "halal" the cows are killed following by traditions and customs
there is in france 5 millions of muslims which represents a big market but it many people don't agree with berguer king muslim since france's traditions is republic secularism ,and we dont have to show our religions in public but the mayor of the town thinks it's a great idea and same for businessmen who would like to buy the name of the society ....
what do u think about that?i don't really agree because here we have this tradition that everyone has be mixed up no difference ....and i know in countries like US or UK u have what we call in french "le communautarisme" which means asian ppl will go and live to these areas while white people will be somewhere else ...
and u how is it in your countries?which politic ? |
Hmm.. "le communautarisme"... I think that's known as 'pluralism' in English. It's where you might have, say, one group of Asians in one neighbourhood, one group of Middle Easterners in another, etc. I see it most often in major cities, though everyone blending in is common as well. |
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| ali92 |
| quote: | Originally posted by St_Andrew
Cause I lived in Canada for one year? :)
It's so awesome to walk into a China, Italy, India, Pakistan or France for that matter, in the middle of a north American city. Makes these cities a lot more interesting :) |
Yeah! I love to visit like a big China Town without actually paying big expenses to go to Hong Kond every week and pop on the loud headset and crack up Waterbone - _Tibet_ (1998). That's one awesome New Age/Electronic/Asian Fusion album (file under New Age, though)... :-D Same goes for other environments too. I also like to buy Japanese audio/video stuff that's not available in USA (and performs better) too. I don't mind a Japanese manual, as all the buttons are usually English anyway. :-) |
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| ali92 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Floorfiller
marie i think what you're getting at is that in the united states for instance and in lots of other countries you have disctricts that are primarily italian or primarily asian or primarily whatever. these areas are never really implemented by the government, but instead have historical roots in the forming of cities and immigration etc etc. anyway enough with the histroy lesson haha :p
i think that it could be a good idea. definitely taking advantage of a tarket market of people is a good idea. i think the real issue here that people don't seem to really be focusing on is...in a secular society...where it is inappropriate to blend religion and business, is this doing that? obvoiusly there are pro's and con's for both sides, but at least in my oppinion i don't really think that this is a contradicting situation because they aren't actually using this resturaunt to practice the religion. the fact that they are dressing in traditional muslim attire and greating customers a certain way just suggests a theme...and isn't trying to influence the customer base in any way so i'd have to say that it doesn't infringe on the ideas of a secular society. |
I fully agree here. Being Muslim-greeted in these restaraunts is like going to a Chinese restaraunt and hearing Chinese music playing and getting served with chopsticks too. It only adds to the athmosphere, which is part of the reason people eat in these places as well. So, it all works out... |
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| ali92 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lepanto
doesn't a' salam aleikum mean "blessed be you" ? lol
we have that here EVERYWHERY, halal meat, Jewish diners, etc. Kosher food owns and i find that most people there aren't Jewish or anything. Been to a muslim place a few times, tasted bad, unless it's Turkish/Greek place then it kicks ass (i put them together beacuse alot of their 'unique' food is similair to the other).
I don't see a problem with that because it's a good way to make money of people. I think they made a mistake of saying it's a muslim diner not a muslim tradition diner or something. Same way here, people wouldn't say Jewish McDonalds but they'd say Kosher Diner. Get my drift? |
Assalam (W)alaykum means 'Peace be upon you.' You reply with 'Walaykum assalam.' |
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