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Tiësto speaks out about concert & #2 DJ.... (pg. 4)
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Mattivi
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Originally posted by kr00t0n
Do the words "for the love of the music" ring any bells?

No?

Well that's because they have been replaced with the words "for the love of CA-CHING!2 :D)


for the love of music?! the biggest cop out cliche in the world right now. no offense. welcome to the real world, not your mom's basement. at their level its big business, sad but true. and they still put out a decent product, maybe not as good as they used to, but a good one all the same considering all the angles their working. just an opinion...
kr00t0n
quote:
Originally posted by Mattivi
for the love of music?! the biggest cop out cliche in the world right now. no offense. welcome to the real world, not your mom's basement. at their level its big business, sad but true. and they still put out a decent product, maybe not as good as they used to, but a good one all the same considering all the angles their working. just an opinion...


I do consider all the angles, but then only the ones that influence me are of importance.

Artists don't paint to make money.

I dont go clubbing to be told by the dj what tracks to buy.

It's that simple, 9/10 djs who are mixing for the love of mixing perform better than those doing it for cash.

Not saying djs shouldn't get paid, but it's easy to tell why/when/where some people choose to play
Mattivi
quote:
Originally posted by kr00t0n
I do consider all the angles, but then only the ones that influence me are of importance.

Artists don't paint to make money.

I dont go clubbing to be told by the dj what tracks to buy.

It's that simple, 9/10 djs who are mixing for the love of mixing perform better than those doing it for cash.

Not saying djs shouldn't get paid, but it's easy to tell why/when/where some people choose to play


i hate to burst your bubble, but their are plenty of artist that paint to make money and it in no way compromises their love for art. nor do they have to be manic depressive, cut off their left ear and die to be considered a great artist. welcome to the world of contemporary art.
and again to say that most djs dont aspire to reach a wider audience and get paid more for gigs is just asinine and it in no way compromises their love for thier craft. i think your argument would be more valid if these bigtime djs were just complacent and not innovative, but i dont think that is the case with the likes of a pvd or a tiesto, sasha, etc. they all have advanced and enriched the electronic music movement and all will leave a lasting legacy...tho i will admit i hate the in concert concept.
i will agree that yeah there is alot of underground/local talent out there who are just as good, but they didnt blaze the trail...and im sure they would love to be in position to to have such influence in music production, artist development, musical venues, etc. again just an opinion and i see your points.
PatMcGroin
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Originally posted by Mattivi
yep its official your a douchbag, one of many now pervading TA....


:D
dartrance
Darkangel how about you do some history on TA?


Let me help you here.

Tiesto was the most respected and popular dj EVER on Ta between 2000 -2001. Not even armin of today came close to the appreciation this community had for him.

Did he deserve it? ya. Tiesto in 2000 was the best of trance music. Then again every trance dj was owning back then because the music was so great.

Just download any tiesto set or especially his magik series and its pretty obvious how great he was. He also had dodgy mixing skills back then but the difference was he tried back then.

I am just sick to death of people who started listening to him in the past 2 years and jumped the bandwagon because of his hype and then started hating him because it was the "cool" thing to do without even knowing what tiesto has done in his prime. Which is definately a lot of TA

ps: Ferry is definately the best out of the trance djs right now
mdamon7278
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Originally posted by dartrance
Darkangel how about you do some history on TA?


Let me help you here.

Tiesto was the most respected and popular dj EVER on Ta between 2000 -2001. Not even armin of today came close to the appreciation this community had for him.

Did he deserve it? ya. Tiesto in 2000 was the best of trance music. Then again every trance dj was owning back then because the music was so great.

Just download any tiesto set or especially his magik series and its pretty obvious how great he was. He also had dodgy mixing skills back then but the difference was he tried back then.

I am just sick to death of people who started listening to him in the past 2 years and jumped the bandwagon because of his hype and then started hating him because it was the "cool" thing to do without even knowing what tiesto has done in his prime. Which is definately a lot of TA

ps: Ferry is definately the best out of the trance djs right now



NOw this guy has alot of valid points, nothing but bashing going on, Tiesto, Acousta, Oakenfold, all of those guys rock it, and still remain some of the best Trance DJ's around period, spread the love of the music not the hate
Coup
omgz flame war!! :eek: :eek:

thread closed.
mdamon7278
But its still open :gsmile:
PatMcGroin
quote:
Originally posted by Coup
omgz flame war!! :eek: :eek:

thread closed.


do it!
requiemofnanqel
oh do it coupy <3 you rock!

verndogs
quote:
Originally posted by mdamon7278
NOw this guy has alot of valid points, nothing but bashing going on, Tiesto, Acousta, Oakenfold, all of those guys rock it, and still remain some of the best Trance DJ's around period, spread the love of the music not the hate


it's like the first post of dartrance that made some sort of point :eek:
FallingMoon
Honestly I think everyone makes a valid point with the exception of ONE person who shall remain nameless. This person always has an insult to throw into an opinion they state. They've even contradicted themselves on more than one occasion, but hey, to each his own.

It's really amusing that they have even bashed other DJ's but when someone they like is bashed out come the flames.

A discussion or difference of opinion can come perfectly WITHOUT insult or direct attacks.

I'm going to say this again (as many others have), it's like a broken record, NO one has the same taste & if one person disagrees with how a DJ performs, it's solely based on their OWN experiences. I don't understand why people don't get this by now. :conf:
This board has gotten to the point that people cannot express ONE view on a subject without having someone attack them.

I've seen so many discussions where other DJ's get flamed and if one person decided to stick up for them, fury gets unleashed at them.

Since this could not continue as a normal discussion without ego's getting thrown around on who knows more about what or who clubs more...BLAH.

I'm closing the thread. This gets SO fcuking old. :rolleyes:
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