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Why France is Burning: Real Interviews with the youths (pg. 2)
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| d-miurge |
Is really CNN a news channel?
Actually, I can understand the point of view of these youths, they are not only dumb drug dealers, some post-graduated have been involved in these events (I don't really like "riots").
The urban policy is a catastroph since 50 years, the politicians don't pay attention to the squalid council flat. Moreover, the unemployement rate is near 40% in these suburbs. Trust me, Fox is better than the USSR TV to say bull... :D
So the fire spreads on with these dumb words of Sarkozy, he mixed the dealers with the others.
As the suffering was there, they react against Sarkozy, but break a shop window or burn a car is stupid imo. Violence settles nothing. |
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| h0tsweetbabyd0l |
yeah CNN should be ashamed to show such a map .....
anyways nothing excuse the behavior of these people ....to me
i've been told this quote " violence is the weapon of the weaks".... |
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| Shakka |
| quote: | Originally posted by h0tsweetbabyd0l
yeah CNN should be ashamed to show such a map ..... |
Is it CNN's fault or Google's? Or both? But yeah--a pretty pathetic map either way.
Edit: I do agree. CNN should check the validity of everything they put on TV. They seem to be going for the "It's on the Internet so it's correct" method. |
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| HardTranceProd |
| quote: | Originally posted by Shakka
CNN should check the validity of everything they put on TV. They seem to be going for the "It's on the Internet so it's correct" method. |
CNN is the TV equivalent of American food. Bland, artificial, boring. ;) |
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| DrUg_Tit0 |
lol at the map :haha: Strasbourg seems to be all the way in Slovenia. Anyway...
| quote: | Originally posted by HardTranceProd
When you hear "articulate" and "rational" comments from older youths, it's hard to understand the rage and desperation of the majority.
But when you hear strongly worded anger like "We hate France. We've had it up to here. Look around you. This place is . It's a dump. There's nothing for us here" - then you begin to get a glimpse of the real outrage. |
Yeah but outrage at what exactly? Just look at the people who are outraging. 3 are known criminals, 2 are "sort of" at school, whatever that means, and 1 is recieving welfare. What the hell are they complaining about? Especially the welfare guy?? He's getting money from the state for doing absolutely nothing except mugging people and selling drugs it seems, and he's still not happy! The only thing that can be done in such neighbourhoods is to increase the police patrols and get the scum off the streets, which seems to be exactly what Sarkozy is doing.
As for the police opressing them and taking them into stations for minor reasons, well, when you have a population whose 50% seems to have a criminal record (judging from the 3/6 ratio of the interviewing rioters) you can't really act the same as if you're patrolling somewhere in North Dakota. There's a big chance that the guy you bring in is guilty for something, it's just a matter of fidning out what. |
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| HardTranceProd |
| quote: | Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0
Yeah but outrage at what exactly? |
It's questions like yours that any sane person would ask if he were listening to NPR and the bland American networks.
If life was pretty grim, though liveable, I'd also have to ask: Outrage at what, exactly?
The answer to your question is that there's a lot, apparently, to be outraged about, otherwise the situation would be nowhere as heated as it is now.
And you might glimpse the answers by reading articles that are frank, uncensored, and preferably foreign. |
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| DrUg_Tit0 |
| quote: | Originally posted by HardTranceProd
It's questions like yours that any sane person would ask if he were listening to NPR and the bland American networks.
If life was pretty grim, though liveable, I'd also have to ask: Outrage at what, exactly?
The answer to your question is that there's a lot, apparently, to be outraged about, otherwise the situation would be nowhere as heated as it is now.
And you might glimpse the answers by reading articles that are frank, uncensored, and preferably foreign. |
Yeah well except that I don't live in the US and therefore get most of my news from those foreign and uncensored networks.
People don't always outrage at something because they are right. Sometimes they outrage because they just think they're right. |
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| Fir3start3r |
| ...and this is why you don't depend on the government for handouts and solutions to everything folks... |
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| NebulousQ |
| quote: | Originally posted by shaolin_Z
It's very obvious why the riots occured after reading this article |
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Ummmmm, I dont know what to say. Perhaps you have researched more sources, kept up on the issue through multiple avenues of information, and this one article has triggered the epiphany that you put in this statement.
Because I really hope you didnt just categorize the whole situation in France and make up your mind after reading one article posted on the internet. I really hope so.
Also I dont care how you reply to this because only you know whether or not you took this article as the basis for your judgements and little or nothing else.
edit: After reading the other Riots in France thread it would appear that you did not base everything you think about France on this one article, but intead of retracting my statement please word phrases like the one I quoted better next time. Statements like that throw up so many red flags that its hard to move on sometimes. |
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| Subey |
| quote: | Originally posted by MisterOpus1
While I do understand that the situation in France is a bit more complicated and involves certain economic hardships and open-door immigrant policies, these kids must have to realize that their destructive behavior does them and the rest of their country much more harm than good in getting their point across.
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Isn't this the general pattern though?
Doesn't a "successful" Islamic terrorist make life more difficult for all the law abiding muslims than it does for the rest of us?
Do Islamic "insurgents" in Iraq make life more difficult for the people of Iraq or for american soldiers?
Jyhad isn't a war fought by muslims agains the west. Jyhad is a war fought by muslims against themselves. Just so happens that attacking the west is the most efficient way of doing it... |
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| jonSun |
| quote: | Originally posted by Synthesia
There is NO justification for the riots whatsoever, end of story. |
Exactly! |
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| LazFX |
| quote: | Originally posted by jonSun
Exactly! |
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