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Metrosexual (pg. 2)
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| Moral Hazard |
| quote: | Originally posted by Floorfiller
i've known many people that were the biggest homophobes before they came out of the closet, and when they did...they were the flamingest gay man you ever met...so i don't think there is any great connection to what you're saying.
it may be narcissistic, but it has nothing to do with sexuality. as i've argued before...i think you'll generally find a trend among people that care about their appearance to succeed in other aspects of life as well. |
There is a difference between caring and the level Metro's take it to. |
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| Boomer187 |
they also love the cock.
:wtf: |
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| Floorfiller |
| quote: | Originally posted by Moral Hazard
There is a difference between caring and the level Metro's take it to. |
i would expect someone like yourself to see that it's a socially created ideology that what these people do is considered extreme.
anyway, just for the record...i've really enjoyed debating with you the last couple days moral...even if we disagree on some things. i hope you haven't taken any offense by any of it because in a lot of instances i've just been playing devil's advocate... |
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| Moral Hazard |
| quote: | Originally posted by Floorfiller
anyway, just for the record...i've really enjoyed debating with you the last couple days moral...even if we disagree on some things. i hope you haven't taken any offense by any of it because in a lot of instances i've just been playing devil's advocate... |
It is very difficult to offend me, Jason. I tend to look at debates or even arguments as an intellectual exercise and more recreational then anything else. I don't expect people to agree with me, just to listen and reflect upon the points I make as I do with theirs. Hell, I don't even mind being proven wrong, I just like to process. I've enjoyed our little quarels. |
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| mizzuno |
| quote: | Originally posted by Moral Hazard
There is a difference between caring and the level Metro's take it to. |
really and who sets that threshold?
Mizz |
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| DOOMBOT |
| I love the stupid people come up with these days and how EVERYTHING has to be put into a category. Doing that only makes it easier to "point and laugh". When in reality, it is those people who are insecure because just like Jason said, they feel threatened. It's sad. :o |
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| Moral Hazard |
| quote: | Originally posted by mizzuno
really and who sets that threshold?
Mizz |
such thresholds are determined by generally accepted cultural norms. |
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| Marc Summers |
A metrosexual is a man who plucks their eye brows like a girl, and has a ty hair cut.
This is an excellent example:
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| tribu |
I don't think it's necessarily about feeling threatened, per se. Yes, people do put others into categories because it makes it easier to laugh, but this is also how the human mind works; we schematize everything. It makes it easier for us to talk about things by forming a common idea as social beings.
Now, as far as metrosexuals adopting the qualities of homosexuals, I think this is a two fold reaction. One is in the name, as homosexuality seems to be a common social term, while heterosexuality is not: heterosexuality appears to be "normal" and thus lacks a need for a name. Secondly, traditional men aren't supposed to spend their time primping and making their apperance desireable. They are supposed to be naturally attractive and strong. However, you could certainly make the case that working out is a form of "putting on makeup" for men, though more permanenent, of course.
In any case, I've got nothing against the whole metro idea, and I've definitely adapted some of the characteristics myself. But you won't find me picking out makeup or trying to color coordinate my home. I know by instinct if I like how something looks, be it clothing, home furnishing or a mating partner, and thats how I make my decisions: not through the "study" of these areas. |
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| mizzuno |
| quote: | Originally posted by Moral Hazard
such thresholds are determined by generally accepted cultural norms. |
generally acceptable has no inherent timeframe, social norms change...
plus i'm not one to adhere to social norms..
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| tribu |
| quote: | Originally posted by mizzuno
generally acceptable has no inherent timeframe, social norms change...
plus i'm not one to adhere to social norms..
Mizz |
I don't think hes claiming that the definition can't change. Metrosexuality clearly doesn't have a static definition, in the way that heterosexuality, for instance, does.
And your adherence to social norms is irrelevant :p. No one likes to admit to adhering to these norms...i wonder why that is.... |
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| mizzuno |
| quote: | Originally posted by tribu
I don't think hes claiming that the definition can't change. Metrosexuality clearly doesn't have a static definition, in the way that heterosexuality, for instance, does.
And your adherence to social norms is irrelevant :p. No one likes to admit to adhering to these norms...i wonder why that is.... |
i beg to differ, peoples thresholds are all different, there is not some blue book of thresholds for metro sexuality |
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