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Epa To Allow Pesticide Testing On Orphans & Mentally Handicapped Children
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| dcougar99 |
WTF is this... discuss...
Public comments are now being accepted by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) on its newly proposed federal regulation regarding the testing of chemicals and pesticides on human subjects. On August 2, 2005, Congress had mandated the EPA create a rule that permanently bans chemical testing on pregnant women and children. But the EPA's newly proposed rule, misleadingly titled "Protections for Subjects in Human Research," puts industry profits ahead of children's welfare. The rule allows for government and industry scientists to treat children as human guinea pigs in chemical experiments in the following situations:
1. Children who "cannot be reasonably consulted," such as those that are mentally handicapped or orphaned newborns may be tested on. With permission from the institution or guardian in charge of the individual, the child may be exposed to chemicals for the sake of research.
2. Parental consent forms are not necessary for testing on children who have been neglected or abused.
3. Chemical studies on any children outside of the U.S. are acceptable.
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| tribu |
I'm for it. The benefits outweigh the potential loss of people who not only will never be productive, but will actually be anti-productive. The only thing I don't agree with is the lack of consent needed in any case, including those in foreign countries. THis is political favours at their most obvious
Now, let's hear why you're against it. |
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| jonSun |
| Finally, ive been pushing for this for a while now. |
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| dcougar99 |
I see it as an ethical issue of treating people different based on certain life predicament (that a person has no control over)… to say that because you have been neglected or abused and therefore your parent has no say in consent… and therefore they would need no consent is crazy!
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| UWM |
| This is going on all the time in prisons across the country. Testing on people is nothing new. |
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| tribu |
| quote: | Originally posted by dcougar99
to say that because you have been neglected or abused and therefore your parent has no say in consent… and therefore they would need no consent is crazy!
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Agree with this part. However, severly handicapped individuals are only going to drain tax money without ever putting any back in. Why not make companies pay money to the individuals they're testing on, and use that money for their care or to replenish the tax fund? |
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| dcougar99 |
| quote: | Originally posted by UWM
This is going on all the time in prisons across the country. Testing on people is nothing new. |
agree... but does it make it right? |
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| tribu |
| quote: | Originally posted by dcougar99
agree... but does it make it right? |
There is no right or wrong. |
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| trance4life627 |
| yeah, testing on humans shouldnt be that big of a surprise |
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| UWM |
| quote: | Originally posted by dcougar99
agree... but does it make it right? |
I am all for it. These people have contributed absolutely nothing to society, while at the same time draining taxpayers dollars to go through publicly-funded trials and live in prison, not to mention the heinous crimes many of them have committed. If they're going to spend their lives in jail then they might as well be of some use to the public. |
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| dcougar99 |
| quote: | Originally posted by tribu
Agree with this part. However, severly handicapped individuals are only going to drain tax money without ever putting any back in. Why not make companies pay money to the individuals they're testing on, and use that money for their care or to replenish the tax fund? |
yeah i also see your point... for me it comes down to the fact that they "the person they are testing" has no say or "option" in the matter. it kinda reeks of the testing the Nazis did. Maybe not on the scale but I still dont like the idea of this being acceptable. Let them test people who say "yeah you can test me and pay me" this happens all the time but to subject someone without consent can become a big problem if not today sometime down the road. |
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