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Dim Mak? or Kyusho Jitsu? (pg. 2)
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| all-nite-freak |
props to your training...
The funny thing is I have seen some black belts get their asses wooped by people with no training whatsoever.Granted martial arts do provide a huge advantage, but in a non tournament no rules setting anything can happen.Like Tree said 1 kick to the nuts and its bye bye.Muay Tai is the i would go for.I can remember a tournament (unfortunatly not the name) pitting top Muay Tai fighters against Karate experts.Muay Tai took it 6 to 1.
P.s. French people have a funny use for the word Karate.Apparantly it describes rubbing off some ball sweat and wiping it on your opponents nose(i you not....its too funny)Georges St Pierre and David L'Oiseaux Pwn all...thanks:p |
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| nusty |
| quote: | Originally posted by all-nite-freak
props to your training...
The funny thing is I have seen some black belts get their asses wooped by people with no training whatsoever.Granted martial arts do provide a huge advantage, but in a non tournament no rules setting anything can happen.Like Tree said 1 kick to the nuts and its bye bye.Muay Tai is the i would go for.I can remember a tournament (unfortunatly not the name) pitting top Muay Tai fighters against Karate experts.Muay Tai took it 6 to 1.
P.s. French people have a funny use for the word Karate.Apparantly it describes rubbing off some ball sweat and wiping it on your opponents nose(i you not....its too funny)Georges St Pierre and David L'Oiseaux Pwn all...thanks:p |
Yeah the montrealers are some of my favorite fighters too.
As for street fight senarios I've spent a lot of time practicing Vale Tudo for street rules senarios. (as ET mentioned the great kick to the balls tactic, another favorite is kicking the guys knee caps backawards through his legs)
I think the martial artists that get thier asses kicked are the ones that think thier martial art is the best. as soon as you have that kind of an attitude you stop learning what advances are being made around you. I fully understand there are some great brawlers out there and boxers with one punch knock out potential but that only means I have to be better prepared and more well rounded to be as best prepared as I can be should a situation arise. For the most part the guys training in traditional martial arts aren't going to be the ones in fights anyway. They know better than get themselves into those situations and have more dignity and self respect.
I compete for the personal challenge not for proving myself to anyone else. |
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| EvilTree |
^A lot of these 'traditional' martial artists also train for tournament type settings, so they are not mentally prepared for a street fight situation which does take a different mindset if you want to come out alive.
Most martial arts or fighting style provide the basics to use win a street fight or a brawl. It depends on whether you have the mentality to properly use your training to win. In self defence, there are no rules except your own survival, because you don't know whether the other guy has intention to kill you. *shrug* |
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| all-nite-freak |
you guys are totally right...but never forget that there is one thing that cannot be taught...taking a punch on the button.You can only be taught to avoid it.All the training in the world cant stop your brain from going into the twilight zone(I have gotten my ass knocked out once and it wasnt my favorite experince.)Anyhow...MMA fans on TA makes my DAY.
Ps...Nate Quarry knows what its like to get hit on the button.:p |
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| EvilTree |
| quote: | Originally posted by all-nite-freak
you guys are totally right...but never forget that there is one thing that cannot be taught...taking a punch on the button.You can only be taught to avoid it.All the training in the world cant stop your brain from going into the twilight zone(I have gotten my ass knocked out once and it wasnt my favorite experince.)Anyhow...MMA fans on TA makes my DAY.
Ps...Nate Quarry knows what its like to get hit on the button.:p |
I wear armour around my groin area whenever I head towards seedier areas of the city. (Nah I don't) :D
I seriously think nature made getting hit in the nuts a control device for women. :p
PS: Stephen Bonnar vs Forest Griffin ftw! |
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| all-nite-freak |
| Bonner vs Griffin was good....the UFC has applied with the Quebec Boxing Comission for a liscense....Matt Hughes vs St-Pierre in Montreal will be better....mark my words this will happen soon... |
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| nusty |
| quote: | Originally posted by all-nite-freak
Ps...Nate Quarry knows what its like to get hit on the button.:p |
2 minutes of round one KO. so much for calling franklin out on a weak chin! lol.
I honestly had higher hopes for that fight.
In general the ufc can lick my balls. I'd take Pride FC almost anyday. there are some good fights on ufc but for the most part the rules in North America have seriously hindered what it means to be a fighter. There is a reason the best fighters in Canada are coming out of Quebec, they have the best legistation in place for MMA.
The ufc has been whoring itself to sponsers... I'm happy the money is coming in with the new appriciation for the sport, but they look pretty gay constantly plugging xcience and right gaurd every zoom in chance they get. |
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| all-nite-freak |
i agree but the UFC is the best shot at mainstream acceptance.Mainstream=more fights and the fans win...I liked Pride back in the day when Don Frye made the jump.Another reason Quebec has great fighters...superior training schools.Pat Miletich(sic)sends his guys here on a regular basis...They are taught all around skills...not just to be grapplers...ground and pounders...strikers...ect. I so want to learn how to deliver those cutting elbows that Loiseaux drops.Man talk about ending a fight quick.
Corporate sponsers = fights on TV instead of PPV...i'll take that. |
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| all-nite-freak |
lets not forget TO's own Ivan Salaverry (god i cant spell their names.)
He is so amazing all around.He is the only guy i have seen make someone submit with a back triangle crank. |
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| nusty |
| quote: | Originally posted by EvilTree
Most martial arts or fighting style provide the basics to use win a street fight or a brawl. It depends on whether you have the mentality to properly use your training to win. In self defence, there are no rules except your own survival, because you don't know whether the other guy has intention to kill you. *shrug* |
One of the things I love most about trainning in BJJ is that it teaches you to be able to relax and think under stressful situations while fighting. 'If'I can get someone into a grappling position I can then take my time to breath and think of the next logical approach while keeping myself relatively safe. This is especially the case when going up against people with no grappling experience. Under most senario's I've encountered between two street fights and bouncing at a pretty rowdy bar for a year and a bit, being a fit 6'2" and 195 with significant grappling and MMA experience, there isn't much that I can't work through as long as it's bare knucle and no guns are involved (which I know isn't always a given). Knifes while I would always try to avoid all together, I do know the strategic places where I can take a cut if need be to then get closer to remove the blade. obviously its next to impossible to train properly for knife situations but given what we can do I feel about as ready as I could be.
I used to have this awesome training partner two years ago who would be more than willing to go punch for punch with me and we would put in extra hours at Laurier on the mats as the Canadian open got closer. We used to get the best looks as we would go from stand up striking to grappling and beating the sh*t out of each other. It still brings a smile to my face. :) You know you're sick when getting beaten to a pulp brings a smile to your face. Explaining the brusing on my neck to my GF was always fun too. |
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| nusty |
| quote: | Originally posted by all-nite-freak
lets not forget TO's own Ivan Salaverry (god i cant spell their names.)
He is so amazing all around.He is the only guy i have seen make someone submit with a back triangle crank. |
He is also the only guy I've ever seen smile so much after getting punched and the jump for joy filled with Glee after winning!
He's actually my number 1 favorite just because of his attitude... not to mention he's damn good. |
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| nusty |
| quote: | Originally posted by all-nite-freak
those cutting elbows that Loiseaux drops.Man talk about ending a fight quick.
Corporate sponsers = fights on TV instead of PPV...i'll take that. |
Agreed.
and yeah that is the one upside of corporate whoring.
Funny how I can't do simple work, but I can talk MMA crap all night. lol. |
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