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| eFeKz |
There were 39 combat related killings in Iraq in January. In the fair city of Detroit there were 35 murders in the month of January. That's just one American city, about as deadly as the entire war-torn country of Iraq.
When some claim that President Bush shouldn't have started this war, state the following:
a. FDR led us into World War II.
b. Germany never attacked us; Japan did. From 1941-1945, 450,000 lives were lost...an average of 112,500 per year.
c. Truman finished that war and started one in Korea. North Korea never attacked us. From 1950-1953, 55,000 lives were lost...an average of 18,334 per year.
d. John F. Kennedy started the Vietnam conflict in 1962. Vietnam never attacked us.
e. Johnson turned Vietnam into a quagmire. From 1965-1975, 58,000 lives were lost...an average of 5,800 per year.
f. Clinton went to war in Bosnia without UN or French consent.
Bosnia never attacked us. He was offered Osama bin Laden's head on a platter three times by Sudan and did nothing. Osama has attacked us on multiple occasions.
g. In the years since terrorists attacked us , President Bush has liberated two countries, crushed the Taliban, crippled al-Qaida, put nuclear inspectors in Libya, Iran, and North Korea without firing a shot, and captured a terrorist who slaughtered 300,000 of his own people.
The Democrats are complaining about how long the war is taking. But-
It took less time to take Iraq than it took Janet Reno to take the Branch Davidian compound. That was a 51-day operation.
We've been looking for evidence for chemical weapons in Iraq for less time than it took Hillary Clinton to find
the Rose Law Firm billing records.
It took less time for the 3rd Infantry Division and the Marines to destroy the Medina Republican Guard than it took Ted Kennedy to call the police after his Oldsmobile sank at Chappaquiddick.
It took less time to take Iraq than it took to count the votes in Florida!!!!
Our Commander-In-Chief is doing a GREAT JOB! The Military morale is high!
The biased media hopes we are too ignorant to realize the facts.
But Wait! There's more!
JOHN GLENN (ON THE SENATE FLOOR)
Mon, 26 Jan 2004 11:13
Some people still don't understand why military personnel do what they do for a living. This exchange between Senators John Glenn and Senator Howard Metzenbaum is worth reading. Not only is it a pretty impressive impromptu speech, but it's also a good example of one man's explanation of why men and women in the armed services do what they do for a living.
This IS a typical, though sad, example of what some who have never served think of the military.
Senator Metzenbaum (speaking to Senator Glenn):
"How can you run for Senate when you've never held a real job?"
Senator Glenn (D-Ohio):
"I served 23 years in the United States Marine Corps. I served through two wars. I flew 149 missions. My plane was hit by anti-aircraft fire on 12 different occasions. I was in the space program. It wasn't my checkbook, Howard; it was my life on the line. It was not a nine-to-five job, where I took time off to take the daily cash receipts to the bank."
"I ask you to go with me ... as I went the other day...to a veteran's hospital and look those men ...with their mangled bodies in the eye, and tell THEM they didn't hold a job!
You go with me to the Space Program at NASA and go, as I have gone, to the widows and Orphans of Ed White, Gus Grissom and Roger Chaffee...and you look those kids in the eye and tell them that their DADS didn't hold a job.
You go with me on Memorial Day and you stand in Arlington National Cemetery, where I have more friends buried than I'd like to remember, and you watch those waving flags
You stand there, and you think about this nation, and you tell ME that those people didn't have a job?
What about you?"
For those who don't remember... During W.W.II, Howard Metzenbaum was an attorney representing the Communist Party in the USA.
Now he's a Senator!
If you can read this, thank a teacher. If you are reading it in English thank a Veteran.
:nervous: thats pretty insane......seems like un-needed bickering between parties...always bah.
i consider myself an independent, but after reading this im thinking differently...about Iraq:nervous: |
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| tribu |
| Both parties are corrupt as hell, yet Americans sure love to vote for them |
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| eFeKz |
| quote: | Originally posted by tribu
Both parties are corrupt as hell, yet Americans sure love to vote for them |
just look at those stats....come on. it seems the bickering is totally eclipsed by the wars of the past, which mind you, fall under the same categories.
the media has changed dramatically in the last 60 years towards goverment policy and reporting it accuratly and un-biased....free press my ass.
i get my news from foreign sources....they tend to report more than what our american news feels we americans should know about. |
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| stevieboy32808 |
There were 39 combat related killings in Iraq in January. In the fair city of Detroit there were 35 murders in the month of January. That's just one American city, about as deadly as the entire war-torn country of Iraq.
When some claim that President Bush shouldn't have started this war, state the following:
a. FDR led us into World War II.
So what he was elected president for 4 terms = 16 years. Although he didn't finish his last term because of polio he did a lot of great things.
b. Germany never attacked us; Japan did. From 1941-1945, 450,000 lives were lost...an average of 112,500 per year. Actually they did. They kept attacking our damn submarines for some damn reason.
c. Truman finished that war and started one in Korea. North Korea never attacked us. From 1950-1953, 55,000 lives were lost...an average of 18,334 per year.
I don't know about this one and I can't be forced to believe so I will do the research.
d. John F. Kennedy started the Vietnam conflict in 1962. Vietnam never attacked us.
I don't know about this one either. Going to research this one, too.
e. Johnson turned Vietnam into a quagmire. From 1965-1975, 58,000 lives were lost...an average of 5,800 per year.
You got me again....!!!
f. Clinton went to war in Bosnia without UN or French consent.
Bosnia never attacked us. He was offered Osama bin Laden's head on a platter three times by Sudan and did nothing. Osama has attacked us on multiple occasions.
There's a strong valid reason for this, but I forget at the moment.
g. In the years since terrorists attacked us , President Bush has liberated two countries, crushed the Taliban, crippled al-Qaida, put nuclear inspectors in Libya, Iran, and North Korea without firing a shot, and captured a terrorist who slaughtered 300,000 of his own people.
Let's remember our initial problem was with Afghanistan, not Iraq. No WMD's existed. Manipulated prewar intelligence. Planned and created 9/11 along with is henchmen.
The Democrats are complaining about how long the war is taking. But-
It took less time to take Iraq than it took Janet Reno to take the Branch Davidian compound. That was a 51-day operation.
years in Iraq > 51 days
We've been looking for evidence for chemical weapons in Iraq for less time than it took Hillary Clinton to find
the Rose Law Firm billing records.
Irrelevant. If you ask me this is just filler.
It took less time for the 3rd Infantry Division and the Marines to destroy the Medina Republican Guard than it took Ted Kennedy to call the police after his Oldsmobile sank at Chappaquiddick.
Filler again.
It took less time to take Iraq than it took to count the votes in Florida!!!!
Oh gosh, filler.
Our Commander-In-Chief is doing a GREAT JOB! The Military morale is high!
Hell no. I'm not much of a polls man, but Bush is not well received here in the states.
The biased media hopes we are too ignorant to realize the facts.
That's why you gotta do the research yourself and decide what to believe.
But Wait! There's more!
JOHN GLENN (ON THE SENATE FLOOR)
Mon, 26 Jan 2004 11:13
Some people still don't understand why military personnel do what they do for a living. This exchange between Senators John Glenn and Senator Howard Metzenbaum is worth reading. Not only is it a pretty impressive impromptu speech, but it's also a good example of one man's explanation of why men and women in the armed services do what they do for a living.
This IS a typical, though sad, example of what some who have never served think of the military.
Are we forgetting someone.........Murtha!!!
i consider myself an independent, but after reading this im thinking differently...about Iraq:nervous:
Okay now see my article and you'll see why Bush is not the guy you portray him to be:
Mwuahahaha!!! |
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| eFeKz |
| quote: | Originally posted by stevieboy32808
Okay now see my article and you'll see why Bush is not the guy you portray him to be:
Mwuahahaha!!! |
This really has nothing to do with bush. its an example of bull and how corrupt our media has become in their reporting...saying Iraq is so bad, yet the stats, in comparison to wars in americas past, prove otherwise. This article also is an observance of stereotypical pen pushers who govern the USA with idiosyncratic ideals that make no sense. |
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| stevieboy32808 |
| quote: | Originally posted by eFeKz
This really has nothing to do with bush. its an example of bull and how corrupt our media has become in their reporting...saying Iraq is so bad, yet the stats, in comparison to wars in americas past, prove otherwise. This article also is an observance of stereotypical pen pushers who govern the USA with idiosyncratic ideals that make no sense. |
I can already tell you haven't read what I wrote since it has nothing to do with the media. Please read a little more slower and carefully as I have done with your post. |
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| eFeKz |
| quote: | Originally posted by stevieboy32808
I can already tell you haven't read what I wrote since it has nothing to do with the media. Please read a little more slower and carefully as I have done with your post. |
Im talking about my article :rolleyes:
theres ltos of pages to urs, im reading. |
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| tribu |
if you think Bush invaded Iraq solely to free the people and spread democracy, you're a fool. If you think there's a huge conspiracy involving osama, and bush, and the us government, you're their equal.
People are letting their government run out of control while they bicker over petty issues like abortion, gun control, and smoking in public places. They send conflicting messages such as polls declaring they want governments to balance the budget but they oppose cutting government programs. Meanwhile, the lower middle ships off 25% of their pay every month and our beauracracy swallows money and spits out scandal after scandal of politicians on all sides stealing our cash, misappropriating our funds, and squandering the money that should be keeping the US the #1 manufacturer and consumer in the world. |
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| ierxium |
| Bush is a humanitarian. He saw a threat is Saddam. He needed to be removed from power to cease his ways of violating laws and killing innocent people. |
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| Perfect_Cheezit |
The war was for democracy.
Totally. |
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| mezzir |
seriously people, don't you realize?
anyone who opposes war obviously hates freedom
cause the war is for freedom
freedom of who?
no in clue
but i've heard word on many occasions the goal of this war is freedom
ing catchphrase
bleh
anyone else for a 3 party system? |
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| eFeKz |
| quote: | Originally posted by tribu
if you think Bush invaded Iraq solely to free the people and spread democracy, you're a fool. If you think there's a huge conspiracy involving osama, and bush, and the us government, you're their equal.
People are letting their government run out of control while they bicker over petty issues like abortion, gun control, and smoking in public places. They send conflicting messages such as polls declaring they want governments to balance the budget but they oppose cutting government programs. Meanwhile, the lower middle ships off 25% of their pay every month and our beauracracy swallows money and spits out scandal after scandal of politicians on all sides stealing our cash, misappropriating our funds, and squandering the money that should be keeping the US the #1 manufacturer and consumer in the world. |
i respect your opinion, moreover i detest people who try to push their agenda on others, not that ur doing that but haha. would you mind elaborating on why bush invaded iraq, in your opinion if you please =D |
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