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PC vs. Mac G5 (pg. 3)
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lol... damn what happened....
diginut its true, my information is all from hearsay. i went online to find some comparative tests between the new quad G5, and the fastest amd athlon 64 but unfortunately i couldn't find anything. i guess we'll all have to wait until some magazine or something does some comprehensive testing, which i'm sure will happen sometime in the future.
i guess my statements come from doing some work in studios and observing some of my professors work. i remember my one teacher had a music score he was working on with nearly 70 different parts with about half being audio units, and at one point almost 40 channels running simultaneously. as you might know logic has a system performance bar which shows cpu load/usage and the g5 never came close to have a cpu overload. also when i worked on a trance track with my partner on a g4, same situation, had many different vsts running with the cpu load maybe 10-15% being used. of course i've never really done official testing so who knows maybe we were just lucky.
i must say though on my athlon 64, i really have no problems with cpu load either... so maybe its just crappy intel pentium processors, cuz my music partners p4 3.2 always maxes out so we end up having to bounce like half of our parts which is REALLY annoying.
either way, whoever's right, diginut, i don't know why you have to get so angry about this discussion. you're just sitting there telling everyone to stfu because they dont' know anything. no one here's trying to be an , we're just trying to discuss our experiences with both computing systems. and this whole time you've sorta just been a hypocrite because you haven't given any cold hard facts either. so in the end it seems like no one here really knows which processor is truly faster going by cold hard statistics. we all lose!! :p
anyways... no need to make this discussion so unpleasant.... we're all adults here... by the way diginut, i friggin love your track breaking up the wrong tree.... i definitely want to use that in one of my upcoming mixes. |
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| Storyteller |
| quote: | Originally posted by GreenLight
... BOTH HAVE THERE PRO'S AND CON'S ... |
Hey that is what I said too :rolleyes:
Too bad nobody listenes to me, I'm just plain studid:mad: |
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| DJ Shibby |
| quote: | Originally posted by DannyO
^^^ thank you, finally a decent post.
To the original thread starter, sorry for the massive thread highjack. |
Mac users are all inept, technologically devoid tools who get off on shiny graphics.
The end. |
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| GreenLight |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ Shibby
Mac users are all inept, technologically devoid tools who get off on shiny graphics.
The end. |
The End ? WOW ... you are inept IF anyone is ... infact ... lemme get under your nails, Im typing on this website right now with my APPLE POWERBOOK G4 ... Get real dood, technologically devoid ? I'd love to hear you tell that to , for example , ABOVE AND BEYOND , who use MAC's ... and LOGIC PRO 7 ... or BT ... The Modern Day Mozart ... now if there inept tools devoid of technology for using MAC Products , then damn ... I'd hate to see what you are just for posting something out your ass like that ... |
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| Storyteller |
| I think you just took the bait |
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| jammer42777 |
what about using Linux on a PC and running the vsti's via windows emulation (the ones that work well) and running the other VSTis via midi cable on a windows system?
hence distributing the CPU load, while using less expensive hardware than a MAC but using an OS MORE stable than OSX?
Just a thought |
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| DannyO |
^^^^I don't think that would work, when you run windows in emulation it is very slow, and add on music software into the emulated windows and it will be even slower, I don't think PCs are fast enough yet to do something like that, but might want to give it a try, I haven't ran Windows in Linux for along time, so don't know how much faster the emulation has come.
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ Shibby
Mac users are all inept, technologically devoid tools who get off on shiny graphics.
The end. |
Nice generalisation :rolleyes: ain't you the smart one. |
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| DannyO |
^^^those are damn good numbers, always been a fan of AMD.
I don't know if this is still the same, but I remember Anandtech (I think) did a test with the P4 and AMDs, the test was to see how they would perform if they had no cooling, the Intel chips heated up but when they got to a certain temperature, the chip dropped its processing power right down so it didn't damage the cpu, where as the AMD chip just heated right up and ended up melting some of its core. |
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| Zombie0915 |
I run a linux PC for my production rig, here is my opinion on the platform wars.
To me it seems that windows are designed to be the everything computers, but in order to be all things for all people they have to spread themselves a little thin, and thus if you have a specific purpose, such as music production, you have to do alot of adjusting to get windows to behave well(the irq's are particualrly annoying). Macs on the other hand are predesigned for media authors, they are designed to get out of your way so you can create stuff.
Performance wise, I think they are close to equal, assuming that both are properly configured, these people are in a constant race to outperform and they pass each other all the time. I agree that the mac os is quite sexy and that windows looks ugly by comparison, but looks are not very important to me.
The reason I choose linux is this, Logic and cubase both require a hardware dongle, both mac and windows software is so fettered with DRM and anti-copying stuff, it really gets in my way and annoys me, these companies dont have the right to inconvenience me in order to protect their profits, that is just my opinion. Linux is all open source, free to mess with, and free of any restrictive stuff to get in your way, nearly every program is capable of redirecting audio to another program, rather than just the stuff that supports rewire or what have you. I like to play with code alot so linux just suits me, if I were only interested in music I would go with a mac because they seem to be designed with musicians in mind and allow them to create without learning about computers, but I am both a computer geek and a music fan so linux is great for me.
What keeps me from getting a mac is the price, I can put together a top of the line PC for 1500 US dollars, an equivalent mac would cost me twice as much, and I would still have to pay like 800 dollars on top of that for logic and whatever other software I decided I needed. The cost is just too much for a broke ass college student like me, maybe one day when I have a full time job and a degree I will be able to afford one, but I am not quite as well off as most of these TA's it seems, who all have thousands of dollars worth of music, thousands of dollards worth of audio equipment, and are always traveling to huge clubs scattered all over the world, I Honestly don't know where you kids are getting the money from, most of you seem to be close to the same age as me and I struggle just to go to local parties and go to school and feed myself, and I work full time and barely spend anything.
If you are a serious music pro you would probably be on a mac, if you were a computer enthusiast and on a budget then you would be on a windows pc, if you were crazy into computers and on a really tough budget then linux is for you, all the software you could want and it is all free, just takes some work to get everything working smoothly, but it is soooo worth it. With the right hardware linux can deliver low sound latency that challenges the high price systems, if you have alot of low spec computers you can cluster them together too.
If you are curious about linux audio you should check out dyne:bolic, which works without requiring you to replace your current OS. |
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| jammer42777 |
Actually Wine calls windows components not actual windows.
Although it would be cool to compile OSX VSTis on linux, I'm not sure what differences are between unix architecture and BSD
Anyways, just my two cents |
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| stefanoc |
ok
its going to be a PC. mac costs lot more if i want to get a good one, plus i realized that i need a power mac (the one with the cpu box). and that costs + monitor.
now its pentium vs. athlon
last time i knew, pentium was better overall because it was more reliable. what are your opinions? |
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