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starting to is 320kbps really good enough?
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| richg101 |
hey there guys.
im starting to wonder why beatport are offering wav as well as 320k?
my main question is to how many people/size of soundsystem will a 320 hold it down?
please dont reply with assumptions. im really looking for a definate answer from someone who knows. i mean will tiesto play a 320 in front of the huge audiences he plays to? |
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| Zild |
| I use 320s in club settings on good systems. Nobody can tell the difference b/w that and vinyl. |
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| DJ RJT |
| quote: | Originally posted by Zild
I use 320s in club settings on good systems. Nobody can tell the difference b/w that and vinyl. |
Agreed. |
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| AngusG |
| quote: | Originally posted by richg101
hey there guys.
im starting to wonder why beatport are offering wav as well as 320k?
my main question is to how many people/size of soundsystem will a 320 hold it down?
please dont reply with assumptions. im really looking for a definate answer from someone who knows. i mean will tiesto play a 320 in front of the huge audiences he plays to? |
Yes 320 kbps is fine... as a general guide, grab the tune at 320kbps if it's available... if not at least 192kbps as a bare minimum...
I've heard that Above and Beyond won't play a tune out unless the mp3 was encoded at 320kbps... |
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| blacknoizybox |
im planning to play everything from 192 to 320 on a cdj-1000 (burn cd-r). a cd-r ripped to 192 sounds pretty well, while the vinyl rip sucks...
i dont give a damn anyways, im playing good tunes, not bitrates, and im not stupid so i do sort out the bad sounding mp3s :) |
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| richg101 |
| im really talking about very large events like gods kitchen global gathering. im just thinkin that if a 128 sounds good on pc speakers but bad on a small pa system. then surely a 320 that sounds good on a 20k rig will sound bad on a 100k system? |
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| Clovis86 |
| If I was going to play out on a good system I wouldn't play anything below 320kbps. |
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| blacknoizybox |
u see, my friend, if i was to play out at Godskitchen or Dance Valley i am supposed to have enough cash to afford myself lisenced cds/vinyls...you know what i mean ;)
since im a total broke, i stick with mp3s, + sounds not that really... 8-)
cheers m8 |
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| Clovis86 |
| quote: | Originally posted by blacknoizybox
u see, my friend, if i was to play out at Godskitchen or Dance Valley i am supposed to have enough cash to afford myself lisenced cds/vinyls...you know what i mean ;)
since im a total broke, i stick with mp3s, + sounds not that really... 8-)
cheers m8 |
I'm broke as a joke too (those CDJ-1000mk2's were expensive!) but I can still fork over a few bucks each month to buy some new tunes on beatport.
Official releases will always own illegal downloads in quality. |
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| Xtracktor |
| quote: | Originally posted by AngusG
Yes 320 kbps is fine... as a general guide, grab the tune at 320kbps if it's available... if not at least 192kbps as a bare minimum...
I've heard that Above and Beyond won't play a tune out unless the mp3 was encoded at 320kbps... |
Funny how anjunabeats doesnt offer 320k downloads :(
But agree to the statement above...320k bare minimum for vinyl rip or 192k for compressed wave (minimum) |
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| Rikki |
I'd prefer wave as it hasnt been touched by anything and is exactly the way it left the studio.
I am one of MP3s biggest fans but if I wanted to buy music and had the option of WAV or the highest bitrate MP3 I'd go for wave.
Why?
Well firstly because with a Wav you can edit it and muck around at proper CD quality. You can load it into you program of choice, extend the intro. Repeat the main hook, chop the boring breakdown by half etc etc and then save the resulting file as another wave at perfect quality. Opening an MP3 just like a JPG and resaving looses definition.
Also noticed that an MP3 converted to an audio CD and mixed on CDJ's at above say 6% gain a twang to them sometimes, and this is high bitrate recordings.
The MP3 algo seems to take the music in at its recorded pitch and tempo and produces a stream that sounds good to the human ear. Moving the pitch up and down moves that sweet spot and you start to spot flaws like I mention here.
Just IMHO
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| AngusG |
| quote: | Originally posted by blacknoizybox
im planning to play everything from 192 to 320 on a cdj-1000 (burn cd-r). a cd-r ripped to 192 sounds pretty well, while the vinyl rip sucks...
i dont give a damn anyways, im playing good tunes, not bitrates, and im not stupid so i do sort out the bad sounding mp3s :) |
ripping from vinyl isn't just a matter of plugging in your mixer to your soundcard, you need a VERY good needle, a VERY good preamp, and a VERY good soundcard... it's probably not worth the hassle... but ig can be done...
| quote: | Originally posted by richg101
im really talking about very large events like gods kitchen global gathering. im just thinkin that if a 128 sounds good on pc speakers but bad on a small pa system. then surely a 320 that sounds good on a 20k rig will sound bad on a 100k system? |
a 320kbp mp3 should still sound fine... PC speakers are crap in there own right, while not as big as a 100k system, a 20k system is by no means crap... |
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