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| Slylee |
is it me, or does it seem like women these days are way more confrontational and ballsy than men?
why is that?
even the attorneys i work for are complete PUS&*#$. i don't get it! they couldn't make a decision if they had a gun to their head.
why is it that at a restaurant it's usually the woman who is getting the attention of the server because she ordered a medium filet and it's practically mooing?
anyone else notice this?
maybe it's just attorneys...i'm so sick of them really. i don't know what inspired them to go to law school, but it's a total joke. my boss NEVER discusses retainer fees with potential new clients and then they call after the consultation, wanting to know what the next step is, and my boss NEVER takes their calls! then he sits there and acts like THEY'RE the idiots because they haven't sent him a check yet. it's like, "HELLO U ING RETARD, why don't u tell them what your retainer fee is and tell them what the next step is" he can't do it. he's a big wimp.
/rant
maybe it's kind of similar to the whole reverse racism issue. you know how blacks dont like whites (for the most part) because they have a chip on their shoulder still from slavery? well maybe women are taking feminism to a new level because of how repressed we were in the old days. now it's like we're all on a mission to make a statement and "not take from anyone". now we're trying to be "players" and not "sluts" if we like casual sex. and bla bla bla.
anyway, i rarely meet a man who knows how to take charge of a situation and be assertive when necessary. it's kind of a big turn off really...
i also realize that a big part of it all is probably because men simply just don't give a .
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| Ygrene |
Here's my input from my relationship:
I don't mind being confrontational if I have a legitimate reason to be. But I do like to give people the benefit of the doubt so sometimes I let a situation play out a little bit before I state my objection or make my complaint. Sometimes the situation resolves itself and it's no big deal. If it doesn't, then I do whatever I need to do to fix it. HOWEVER, when I do go about the nicest and most unabrasive way possible. I'm a salesman, so I'm pretty comfortable in dealing with people in tense situations and setting my emotions aside. I think it works out to everyones benefit.
ON THE FLIP SIDE, when my wife feels like she's been slighted IT'S TIME TO DROP FAT MAN AND LITTLE BOY. When it happens, she doesn't want to resolve the problem anymore, she just wants to be mad. Then I have to come in and do some type of damage control. Sometimes she gets her way and I'm like "Was that really worth it? Yeah, you got the 15% off but that dude wants to friggin stab you."
I dunno, maybe it's just that we (men/women) have different ways to address problems and each of us sees the others as wrong? |
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| Moral Hazard |
You're talking about two different things here.
With regard to lawyers, they are trained to always be cautious. Because they are protecting their client's interests they have a duty to ensure that they never get their client into a situation that they cannot argue out of. This means they cannot take absolute positions. Confrontation forces one to take an absolute position, therefore it is something lawyers will avoid with the exception of trial. Unfortunately, it ends up becoming part of their personality and will extend well beyond their professional lives. That said, you boss not discussing fees and litigation budgets is more of a problem with regard to his management skills then an effort to avoid confrontation.
With regard to men in general. I think this pertains almost exclusively to the x and y generations. My belief is that we have been raised by parents who have made it their mission to correct the perceived ills of society by socially engineering their children. One of those ills is violence. I think the parents of the x & y generations taught their male children not to be confrontational in an effort to avoid violence. I know that my entire life I was told that fighting is bad, yelling is bad, arguing is bad, etc. Another ill our parents perceived was inequality between the sexes. In order to correct this they believed that girls would need to be aggressive and competative, they would have to essentially behave as men did. To this end they were encouraged to be aggressive and competative and argumentative and adversarial. The result of this is two generations of men that avoid conflict at all costs because it is "bad" and two generations of women that are willing to do anything they need to in order to get what they want because success is "good". |
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| igottaknow |
*acts all meek
i don't slylee what ever you say |
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| Allied Nations |
I read an article about this, and its not so much a role reversal but the truer personality of women is coming out.
Apparently they have poor buisness ethics. |
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| Radagast |
| I know i'm wimpy, and i'm a man's man. Well, maybe not a man's man. More like a boy's man. Or maybe a young man's boy. I'm a young man's man at best. But I wouldn't know about women. If you follow. |
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| Ygrene |
| quote: | Originally posted by igottaknow
*acts all meek
i don't slylee what ever you say |
NERD! |
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| weymouth |
| Women are too uptight anymore and so they get all defensive and aggressive for things that dont matter. Men can still take control but it seems women make such a fuss out of anything that it annoys the crap out of men so they just dont bother. Laid back for the win. |
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| Allied Nations |
| quote: | Originally posted by weymouth
Women are too uptight anymore and so they get all defensive and aggressive for things that dont matter. Men can still take control but it seems women make such a fuss out of anything that it annoys the crap out of men so they just dont bother. Laid back for the win. |
LOL i def agree. |
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| Slylee |
well my other boss (owner of the firm) NEVER EVER says anything to my coworker for never being here on time and never getting the filing done (it's 10:30 right now and he was supposed to be here at 9).
he just won't pull the guy in his office and say, "listen buddy, get your together or i gotta can ya"
he continues to let him take advantage. i mean, i love the guy (coworker) cuz he's funny as hell and makes me laugh, but he also drives me ign insane with his tardiness. i call him every day and yell at him because my BOSS is too chicken to do it. and i'm just the secretary. |
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| igottaknow |
curl up in the fetal position under your desk, take a deep breath and find a happy place.
your just experiencing beginning of the work week anxiety |
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| DJFreaq |
Your viewpoint is an ironic since most women (here's an example) are not in a position of high rank in the military because they can't make quick decisions. They think about things too methodically and end up not being able to decide wether or not to nuke somebody. It's not a weakness though; it's an advantage for other areas.
You just must work for some complete fagturds or something. :conf: |
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