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(NEW) Pioneer DJM-800 & DJM-400 (NEW) (PICS) (pg. 4)
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| Clovis86 |
| quote: | Fully Assignable MIDI function
There are a total of 61 assignable controls. The MIDI signal can be sent from almost all knobs and switches on the surface of the DJM-800 to external midi equipment. Since the mixer can send out many MIDI signals, it can be used as a flexible interface to music software or hardware such as Ableton Live or EDIROL V-4 Video Mixer.
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This is ing great, this is what I wanted to see...not just some MIDI but a mixer that can completely convert itself into a midi controller, and still have that mixer feel. Coupled with an X-session or similar small controller with triggers, this could blow the Xone-3d out of the water. (IMO) |
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| MERiDiAN5i2 |
| quote: | Originally posted by punjabi
ever heard of the CDJ-1000MKII? :rolleyes: |
heard of and used, yes.
an overpriced, overcomplicated, delicate CD deck. costs twice as much as a tech 12, probably wont last half as long. oh, and dont forget it will be obsolete as soon as digital formats change or some new even fancier, more overpriced trendy-deck comes out. |
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| Clovis86 |
| quote: | Originally posted by MERiDiAN5i2
heard of and used, yes.
an overpriced, overcomplicated, delicate CD deck. costs twice as much as a tech 12, probably wont last half as long. oh, and dont forget it will be obsolete as soon as digital formats change or some new even fancier, more overpriced trendy-deck comes out. |
Nevermind the fact it owns any CD deck ever made.
And rofl @ overcomplicated. |
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| tubby |
| overcomplicated? cor chief, hope you never have to put up with all the options on a denon cd deck then. i think your head might explode. |
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| DJ 00 Tommy |
| Damn pitch controll! who needs that mumbo jumbo gimick anyway!? |
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| punjabi |
| quote: | Originally posted by MERiDiAN5i2
heard of and used, yes.
an overpriced, overcomplicated, delicate CD deck. costs twice as much as a tech 12, probably wont last half as long. oh, and dont forget it will be obsolete as soon as digital formats change or some new even fancier, more overpriced trendy-deck comes out. |
you wanna talk about obsolete?
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| Soundwerks |
| quote: | Originally posted by Clovis86
This is ing great, this is what I wanted to see...not just some MIDI but a mixer that can completely convert itself into a midi controller, and still have that mixer feel. Coupled with an X-session or similar small controller with triggers, this could blow the Xone-3d out of the water. (IMO) |
Not really...as a MIDI controller, the DJM-800 is not that useful. The faders/knobs will send out MIDI, but they are not reprogrammable or remappable.
For instance, if you're using, say, Traktor...which knob will you use to select your tracks? which button will you use to choose a track, or to press play, or cue? You'll be able to control the virtual mixer with the EQ's and faders...but all the other functionality....???
Thats where the NUO4 and the XONE:3D are superior....the offer a TON more MIDI functionality. In the case of the NUO4, you can reprogram all the MIDI commands...and it has 89 MIDI commands....plus, it's HALF the price!:eyes: |
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| sr126 |
to me pioneer = junk. especially for the price that want for it.
the sound quality of the current djm's is downright awful compared to what's available in their price range. the sound of the djm's is on par w/a $300-400 dollar mixer. there is no way in hell i'm gonna shell out money for the new one knowing how crappy the old ones are.
if anything, i anticipate all this hooplah about 24/96 will only amount a less ty sounding mixer, and will not = a great sounding mixer. i still think the mp-44 and the xone 92 will beat the out of it in the sound quality department. which is really the only reason to spend more than 1k for a mixer anyways... |
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| Trogdor |
Remember folks, the Xone:92's msrp is $1999, so the 800 will probably go for $1200 or so.
The sound will be extremely accurate, on paper. With technically "better" sound than any other mixer (excluding the DJM-1000, which should have the same sound quality). Better (more accurate) sound than any other mixer? Yeah, I would say that's a step up in quality from the 600.
But, then again, I love my Xone, and the way it colors the sound. That's what you pay the big bucks for. Yes, a colored sound, Meridian. Anyway, I think you should read what the color controls actually do before you damn them.
Anyway, the 800 looks awesome. If it performs as good as it looks on paper, then it will surely dominate its mixer class, by far (the Xone:92 is in a different class, by the way). |
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| Clovis86 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Soundwerks
Not really...as a MIDI controller, the DJM-800 is not that useful. The faders/knobs will send out MIDI, but they are not reprogrammable or remappable.
For instance, if you're using, say, Traktor...which knob will you use to select your tracks? which button will you use to choose a track, or to press play, or cue? You'll be able to control the virtual mixer with the EQ's and faders...but all the other functionality....???
Thats where the NUO4 and the XONE:3D are superior....the offer a TON more MIDI functionality. In the case of the NUO4, you can reprogram all the MIDI commands...and it has 89 MIDI commands....plus, it's HALF the price!:eyes: |
I read "Fully Assignable MIDI function" as just that, assignable and customizable. |
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| Zild |
| quote: | Originally posted by Trogdor
But, then again, I love my Xone, and the way it colors the sound. That's what you pay the big bucks for. Yes, a colored sound, Meridian. Anyway, I think you should read what the color controls actually do before you damn them.
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First off Meridian is a freaking idiot who is a nobody in the central texas DJ/EDM scene, so do not ever listen to anything he says. I think he should stay in the COR.
Second, you're absolutely right about the analog circuitry giving a favorable "color" to the sound on A&H mixers. Why do you think people spend so much money on valve amps? It is specifically because the distortion they add actually sounds good (i think its because of the harmonics created by the analog tubes)wheras, digital distortion is flat out square clipping that sounds like . So if you clip a digital amp, which most DJs will do (nobody ever respects the red lines) then it will sound like . |
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| Djyoungsta00 |
Pioneer DJM 800
it looks like a Denon DNX-1500 & a Pioneer DJM 600 Rolled into one.
cant wait to see Behringer try & copy this one LOL!:stongue: |
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