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V-Station vs. Z3TA
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Aquascape
Hopefully I won't be lynched for starting this topic :whip:

I have done some searching on this forum on topics relating to the Z3TA and V-Station but nothing that exactly matches what I want to know.

I have a birthday coming up and I'm after a good quality synth to give my uplifting tracks a bit more substance. I've downloaded demos for both the V-Station and Z3TA but am still a bit confused. V-Station seems less versatile and interesting than Z3TA but I am obviously more interested in how useable a synth is.

There's no point in owning a synth with all these amazing sounds, if hardly any of them are appropriate for the music you make. Being user-friendly is also a consderation since I have limited experience with VSTi's outside of the FL Studio environment.

I produce uplifting trance and am looking for a good all-rounder for basses, pads and leads. The latter being the most important. I have my eye on the Bass Station as well, so perhaps bass is the least important.

Opinions appreciated.
Zombie0729
depends on your learning curve. you could learn v-station much more quickly than z3ta... however, z3ta is a good long term investment. it might take a year to get good with but atleast it's a synth that can evolve with you.


buy z3ta, there are many tutorials online... spend the time to learn one of the most versatile synths on the market.
Final Call
I have both but i prefer V-station over Z3ta. My choice for this is because V-station doesnt kill my CPU and that i over the last year i grown to like V-station more. Have you listened to the Synthation soundbank for V-station? when i gave it a listen i was surprised to hear how good v-station could make those sounds. I dont use z3ta much because my CPU is a queer and it just plain sucks lol.
armanivespucci
I use z3ta for leads and V-station/Vanguard for bass.

V-station is the best software for sub-basses, IMO, while I think Vanguard makes some of the best mid-basses.

I don't think you'll find an all-rounder when it comes to software, however. Every softsynth seems to have been made with particular specialties in mind.
Dj Pyster
I love z3ta its a great synth, but i think I love V-station alot more.
Messing around with it a little while ago, created a fimilar synth from a fimilar tune.

Here's a sample:


Massive (Micro De Govia RMX) - Ralphie B (Synth Sample)

-Dj Pyster-
djlogik
I'd have to agree with Final Call on V-Station. I mean z3ta+ is extremely versatile and can do so many things. My only problems with it are it's high cpu usage, cuts through the mix too hard, overall a really rugged sound. It pierces through the mix, which is good at times, but sometimes it's overkill. V-Station I have found does really nice leads and basses. Pads are alright, but z3ta+ could do the pads much more nicely. IMHO I'd rather go with V-Station than z3ta+. Oh and the learning curves are on 2 totally different levels. Z3ta+ being that much harder to get adapted to.
IDarkISwordI
quote:
Originally posted by Dj Pyster
I love z3ta its a great synth, but i think I love V-station alot more.
Messing around with it a little while ago, created a fimilar synth from a fimilar tune.

Here's a sample:

Raplhie B - Massive (Micro De Govia Remix) (Synth Sample)


-Dj Pyster-


Ok, I dont know why, but for some reason, your link directs me to www.microsoft.com. Thats kinda scary but at the same time... I think im gonna go upload some files named eatmicrosoft.rar and microsoftsucks.exe.

Anyway, my two cents is that z3ta way out-performs v-station. The high number of built in waveforms, including the ability to import your own makes it much better, but thats not all. The advanced set of built in FX and the very nice set of built in arpeggiator rythms are very nice additions. With z3ta, you also have more than just a subtractive synth, you also have a 6 operator FM synth, and an additive synth as well. On the flip side, V-station is MUCH simpler and much more straight forward to use for the average/beginning programmer. V-station can pump out some really good bass and some smooth highs and thats def one of the main things that need to be focused on when deciding. In the end, it comes down to how dedicated you are and how much synth power you want/need and feel you can handle. If you want to get the job done quick and dirty, def go with V-Station because it really is a good synth but it is however limited. The only one that can really decide here is you though so weigh those things and make a good decision :).

Cheers,
Zac
Dj Pyster
I fixed the link :)
Dj Pyster
I was listening to the sample I posted above, I realized that I messed up on some of the chords :)

This one is down to the note.

Click Here



-Dj Pyster-
Aquascape
Hey, thanks for the help guys!

DJ P, a nicely programmed sound btw. Pretty accurate, oh except for that chord error (which I didn't notice anyway).

So, I guess the answers I got were basically what I was expecting. I found an excellent preset lead in the z3ta yesterday, more exciting than what I've found with v-Station (and leads are a weakness in my tracks currently). However I will bear what djlogik said about it cutting through the mix - not always a good thing, too domineering. Then armanive mentioned Vanguard, which would sort the leads but complicates my decision more.

So, I guess it's back to playing around with them all. Will keep you posted.

Cheers,

AQ

DJ Shibby
z3ta was the closest thing (and only software synth that could claim such) to a hardware synth for quite a long while.
Storyteller
quote:
Originally posted by Dj Pyster
I love z3ta its a great synth, but i think I love V-station alot more.
Messing around with it a little while ago, created a fimilar synth from a fimilar tune.

Here's a sample:


Massive (Micro De Govia RMX) - Ralphie B (Synth Sample)

-Dj Pyster-


Just met ralphie b last week, great guy :)
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