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anyone who hates softsynths? (pg. 2)
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| Icone |
There's no point in thinking you are weird because your taste is different - it's entirely natural to differ :)
Trends are just trends, eventually it'll probably stabilise again. Hardware synths are still very popular, even though they can be 20x more expensive than a software 'version'. Look at the new Virus TI (although this one doesn't have a software equivalent yet).
For me, due to budget restrictions and also lack of space to be able to put EVERY equivalent hardware synth, it has always been software. More recently, software has really become my thing even though I never played with hardware stuff.
As you see, everything in this world is just... relative :) |
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| stefanoc |
| my preference doesnt go for hardware because i can afford them. actually ive been trying to save up to buy a virus c but havent gotten the chance yet. i am very new to this so that might be a reason for me not to like softsynths as they dont seem too practical. but i just think production, sounds and all that generated and played with computer is too much. |
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| stefanoc |
| quote: | Originally posted by Storyteller
Of course there are more people which prefer hardware.
No, everybody has their own approach to making music which is very important. Maybe you should by some hardware midi controller with a lot of knobs to control your softsynths through hardware?
That would be cheaper and could just make you about just as happy ;) |
this i would like. at least i have something under my hand. but creating the sound has to be done with software still.
btw, i hope i dont sound like im bitching. i just prefer creating the sounds and music with hardware/keyboards not for the sound purpose but only because i feel i cant do a good job with the softsynth because it will be stressing for me and stress will eat away your talent and get you out of focus. by NO way i mean softsynth sound worst than hardware. as long as the sounds are nice in a song, the tools he used are the least concerning to me. someone who creates a great track with softsynth is as talented as the person who created a great track with hardware. |
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| Storyteller |
| quote: | Originally posted by stefanoc
this i would like. at least i have something under my hand. but creating the sound has to be done with software still.
btw, i hope i dont sound like im bitching. i just prefer creating the sounds and music with hardware/keyboards not for the sound purpose but only because i feel i cant do a good job with the softsynth because it will be stressing for me and stress will eat away your talent and get you out of focus. by NO way i mean softsynth sound worst than hardware. as long as the sounds are nice in a song, the tools he used are the least concerning to me. someone who creates a great track with softsynth is as talented as the person who created a great track with hardware. |
I couldn't agree with you more. If softsynths decrease the quality of your work and the fun you have making music you certainly shouldn't use softsynths whatever people might say.
I personally love softsynths and have no problems with them, but it is the same as people telling me to get another sequencer because mine supposedly sucks while I love to work with it and can do some awesome stuff with it imo :) |
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| zodiac9 |
| The only thing I don't like about softsynths, is the way they eat up computer resources. I want to use a ton of VSTi's, but have to limit their number due to the fact that my PC slows to a crawl. I need an upgrade, which I hope to get soon. Anyways, with hardware, you never have the trouble of running out of steam. I have to say I prefer hardware, but like about everyone else here, can't really afford it. It's much more convenient and economical to go with softsynths. Seems most Pros will always use some kind of hardware, along with softsynths. |
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| Diginerd |
A bad workman blames his tools.
If you want to do things right you use the right tool for the job. So there is a place for both in a modern studio, though I tend to find that I can more often get the sound I need with hardware rather than software.
In our world much (Admittedly not new) hardware is actually more affordable than many soft synths, not least they also have real resale value.
This dosen't apply if you are using K's, but then if you're not serious about investing in the right tools then you are in the wrong game. |
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| Who R U? |
| quote: | Originally posted by armanivespucci
Which part is which? And why is the first one filtered but not the second one?
For comparison you wamt to make them the same. |
Discovery is first and Nord second... It is the exact patch used for both synths. Not a big deal but just thought the Nord sounded better. |
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| DJ Shibby |
| quote: | Originally posted by Diginerd
A bad workman blames his tools.
If you want to do things right you use the right tool for the job. So there is a place for both in a modern studio, though I tend to find that I can more often get the sound I need with hardware rather than software.
In our world much (Admittedly not new) hardware is actually more affordable than many soft synths, not least they also have real resale value.
This dosen't apply if you are using K's, but then if you're not serious about investing in the right tools then you are in the wrong game. |
Very, very, very well said. |
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| MadMaxNeo |
I hate softsynths. They sound all terrible. If you ever had some workstations from yamaha, some walddorf or JP 8080 at home you would be able to hear, what softsytnsh don't have...Warmth, a great dynamic range, clearness, brightness, transparence.
I always have to laugh about the people who think that Discovery DSP is a good nordlead substitute. If you ever heard some of the nord lead sounds, the nice basses or the techno leads you would see that discodsp is just a lousy toy.
You can make good tunes with software synths but the overall quality is always inferior compared with a hardware production.
Liste to these old tunes from 1996, 1997,1998, 1999 when everything was done with hardware: the supersaws were brighter, the sounds were warmer. I've never heard a good supersaw from a softsynth which is a good as the real one (and don't come up with those Reaktor stuff from cyrus or the trashy superwave synths) |
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| Pjotr G |
| quote: | Originally posted by MadMaxNeo
I hate softsynths. They sound all terrible. If you ever had some workstations from yamaha, some walddorf or JP 8080 at home you would be able to hear, what softsytnsh don't have...Warmth, a great dynamic range, clearness, brightness, transparence.
I always have to laugh about the people who think that Discovery DSP is a good nordlead substitute. If you ever heard some of the nord lead sounds, the nice basses or the techno leads you would see that discodsp is just a lousy toy.
You can make good tunes with software synths but the overall quality is always inferior compared with a hardware production.
Liste to these old tunes from 1996, 1997,1998, 1999 when everything was done with hardware: the supersaws were brighter, the sounds were warmer. I've never heard a good supersaw from a softsynth which is a good as the real one (and don't come up with those Reaktor stuff from cyrus or the trashy superwave synths) |
Well. I've never heard a hardware emulation of the supersaw either that sounds exactly like the one on the JP 80x0. Ít's probably down to one source being roland, and the other sources being not from roland, beit hard or soft.
And reaktor doesn't sound crappy. |
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| Storyteller |
| quote: | Originally posted by MadMaxNeo
I hate softsynths. They sound all terrible. If you ever had some workstations from yamaha, some walddorf or JP 8080 at home you would be able to hear, what softsytnsh don't have...Warmth, a great dynamic range, clearness, brightness, transparence.
I always have to laugh about the people who think that Discovery DSP is a good nordlead substitute. If you ever heard some of the nord lead sounds, the nice basses or the techno leads you would see that discodsp is just a lousy toy.
You can make good tunes with software synths but the overall quality is always inferior compared with a hardware production.
Liste to these old tunes from 1996, 1997,1998, 1999 when everything was done with hardware: the supersaws were brighter, the sounds were warmer. I've never heard a good supersaw from a softsynth which is a good as the real one (and don't come up with those Reaktor stuff from cyrus or the trashy superwave synths) |
I honestly think you're way too black and white here. There is nothing wrong with not liking software, but saying it is without any valid arguments is another.
In your opinion software is . Let me tell you. The virus is man, just like the virus powercore (with the exact same algorithms as the real deal). In my opinion the average oldschool jp8000 supersaw wasn't brighter, it was plain harsh and cold.
And why shouldn't we talk about cyrus reaktor patches, probably because it undermines your statement. Understimating the power of software is one but saying it is crap is utter bull. If you've tried software and it didn't work out for you it is probably because you're not capable of working with them. Your problem not ours, these discussions have been held before. |
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| DJFreaq |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lepanto
anyone would prefer hardware to software but good luck paying for all of that. |
precisely |
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