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The Trance Experience from Sound.Org/Waves
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| david-james |
Just about to order this, and wondered if anyone's got this yet?
Looks pretty good. They also have another title based on mixing and mastering that looks alright.
Hopefully we'll be seeing a lot more stuff like this! :)
http://www.sound.org/titles2.html |
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| djgosher2023 |
| quote: | Originally posted by david-james
Just about to order this, and wondered if anyone's got this yet?
Looks pretty good. They also have another title based on mixing and mastering that looks alright.
Hopefully we'll be seeing a lot more stuff like this! :)
http://www.sound.org/titles2.html |
im just going to order it myself..i read in another tread in this section that this book is very good.. |
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| vccv |
Hi!
I've bought myself both books. I like em both. They give lots of good advice on things like panning, compression, eq:ing, reverb and stuff.
I kinda like practical more than teoretical learning so the seesions files really does it for me.
Only thing is you need quite a powerful comp. to run full session. But u can always run bounced files on a quite slowish comp., mine is based on Athlon 1800+, works ok.
One other drawback is if u plan to ur session files longer than 14 days, since thats the demoperiod of the included wavesplugins (that is of course if u dont already own these). But still advices apply for other plugs aswell so the techniques are useable anyways.
U wanna know something else bout the books, IŽll be happy to answer.
Viktor
And no iŽm not a waves representative : ) |
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| david-james |
| quote: | Originally posted by vccv
U wanna know something else bout the books, IŽll be happy to answer.
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Ive now ordered, The Trance Experience book. Im just wondering in full session mode what other 3rd party plugins are used for instruments?
I would prefer to work this way if i can, but i dont wanna be missing anything if i can help it, so if there's anything you can suggest that'll be cool. I already have quite a few so i might be ok.
I'll be using Logic Pro 7 on a Dual G5 with 4.5gb of Ram. So it should be able to ok for this.
Thanks for any info... |
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| DJ Shibby |
| Waste of money; it's all free on the net and forums, and so much more plus interaction. :eek: |
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| DeZmA |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ Shibby
Waste of money; it's all free on the net and forums, and so much more plus interaction. :eek: |
I wouldn't say a book of someone that's in the business for quite a few years can compare to some forum information. (speaking in general terms) |
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| vccv |
Used soft...
Emagic ES2, EXS24, Sculpture, Ultrabeat
Motu MX4
NI Battery 2, Reaktor 4
Fabfilter one
Basementarts Reflex beat slicer
Alphakanal Generator
Waves Diamond bundle, IR-1, Q-Clone
And yes i suppose the books cover less info than forums but i kind of like it having it gathered in a colorful thin expensive book : )
I'm not a production pro either so i found lots of useful info in the books but i can imagine if one already knows alot about production then these books might not offer "anything new under the sun".
Viktor |
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| Agenz |
Fantastic book. My production skills have really come on in the last 2-3 days. A picture paints a thousand words, just my opinion ;)
I guess people learn in diff ways but for beginners out there, get this book |
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| Icone |
I guess for only $80 it can never hurt the money to learn :)
At least it is WAY more expensive than some other blatantly expensive tools that are around... |
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| DJ Shibby |
| quote: | Originally posted by DeZmA
I wouldn't say a book of someone that's in the business for quite a few years can compare to some forum information. (speaking in general terms) |
Yeah, because there aren't any people who have been in the business on any forums or with net magazines or anything like that, right? |
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| hereander |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ Shibby
Waste of money; it's all free on the net and forums, and so much more plus interaction. :eek: |
I don't think you're right. I also bought it and I find it helpfull for seting up a song template-project in your sequencer with eq's and effects to roughly match a "generic trance track". At the end it should be all individual but its a good starting point.
Although the book is sort of Waves-Promotion it gives you a better understanding of a mix if you see the FX-Settings visually.
And some words about forums and learning basic techniques:
Many people who got to the point where their tracks start sounding professional start to get arrogant. It's the typical keeper-of-forbidden-knowledge-syndrome which can be found in all sorts of forums on the net. The same applies to those "insider tutorials" in magazines like s.o.s. (I remember "trance masterclass for reason" which sounded more crappy than any demo-song).
I find it absolutely legitimate if someone who's getting into trance music (we should be glad that there are still "beginners" although they start with most commercial stuff) and decides to try it with let's say fruity or reason wants to copy one of his favourite "commercial acts".
Torsten Fassbender shows in his book how to do this commercial sound.
On this forum the usual game is the following...
Newbie: "How can I make my track sound like commercial DJ XYZ?"
Pro: "Don't copy! Develope your individual sound, it's all about training. It takes you a long way (In fact he has to give this master-yoda-answer to justify his years of training without having had assistance from others)"
Pro(alternative answer): "Find out by yourself. It's all about EQing."
Newbie: "how can I achieve the sound like ZYX with synth Y?"
Pro: "Start with a Saw, then tweak, tweak and tweak"
Don't get me wrong, theres a lot of good information here but not "pre-compiled" for beginners. It would be a lifetime task to gather all information in a single tutorial.
cheers,
hereander |
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| djlogik |
So I'm assuming they're looking for step-by-step tutorials on let's say to create your typical saw lead or a really powerful pad? Personally, I just feel people don't want to learn for themselves and would rather just ask someone to do it for them. That's what I think most people on the forums get upset about. Either there is already something written on it or they're just too lazy to do it themselves.
While on the subject of effects...you can't just teach someone how to make a sound pro by saying "If you want to make that sweet saw lead in abc track, use this much delay with this much compression and eq it with these settings and now you'll sound just like Tiesto or PVD." Search first and if you'd like some extra help then I'm willing to bet someone will help you out and show you how to get that extra edge.
Obviously you can't become a pro overnight, or a week, or months, but years yes. It's all about practice, practice, practice. I feel it's just easier to learn through trial and error and reading up a little bit on what you're trying to do.
I've never read the book, but I feel I probably have learned more in a shorter amount of time on my own than reading that book. |
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