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What is a clubber? (pg. 3)
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| sabi10 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Zombie0915
It very well could be a US fad(maybe it is more of a southeasters US fad, both of us are from the south it seems), perhaps the overseas clubs aren't full of snobs like the ones here are. We get alot of these stuck up types, clubs are full of people flashing their status symbols and acting full of themselves. I kinda thought this happened all over the world(to some degree) but I've never been outside the US aside from a couple trips to Canada so I really have no idea.
"Night at the Roxbury", the types of people in that movie are the types of people I feel fit the definition of "clubber", complete with the gold digging bitches trying to score rich guys. |
GREAT movie, one of the best i think ;) .
Well it is the same here in israel, i think that everywhere there are those snobs. |
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| torontotrance |
| As Nik says, that's what you do. At System in Toronto, no one gives a what you wear, its all about a 1000 people dancing their asses and having the time of their lives to a deejay's journey. |
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| isoterra |
unworldly: that sounds pretty ; i've experienced that kind of attitude over here but only in the commercial/r&b type haunts. and perhaps the odd funky house place too, to a lesser extent.
every trance club i've been to in the past few years has had no dresscode (well, no STRICT dresscode, obviously they're not gonna let complete tramps in) and 18+ ID for both sexes. people get patted down on entry but that's no real big issue if you hide your stash properly :p ...but above all, most have had pretty friendly & approachable crowds who are only there for the music. i dance like a complete tard when off my nut and have never felt awkward doing so, so that can't be bad. really can't imagine tryhards going to clubs like that
in hard trance/hard house clubs the atmosphere feels even more relaxed still; you don't get many chinstrokers & elitists with music like that, and it isn't uncommon to see people still cybering it up with glowsticks & the likes... imo these are the best nights going if you can tolerate the music ;) |
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| Zombie0915 |
well, Washington DC is nothing like those kind of places, nor is Atlanta. Nothing I've found in New York is like that either but I haven't been to very many places up there yet.
I think the reason this happens in the US is because clubs cater to people who spend the most money and those trendy types of kids are the ones spending all the money, I don't think clubs here give a damn about musical passion, they just want people to come in and spend their money. It has been about 3 years since I was at a party where I felt like "its all about a 1000 people dancing their asses and having the time of their lives to a deejay's journey", my biggest dissapointment has been FUR at washington DC.
This whole thread I've been waiting for somebody to get upset at me for insulting their party places but nobody has done it yet. I was hoping somebody would come in and say something like "this club you are bitching about is not like that at all" but nobody has challenged my judgement of the USA East coast, and I would rather be embarrased and wrong than be right that the USA East coast is full of vain trendwhore clubs. Somebody please challenge my judgement, tell me I'm a retard and point out where the good parties are happening, crikey. I hate the idea that my insults to the clubs in this country might be true. I can't find a place where people can really let down their inhibitions and go crazy that is notable enough to mention on a worldwide forum and happens to be within road trip distance(and I take really long road trips).
This velvet rope phenomenon has really invaded the trance and progressive nights around here |
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| Synthesia |
| Seems like the US definition is quite different to the European one, even though there isn't a standard one. To me a clubber is somebody who regularly goes to EDM clubs, not to those rnb/hiphop/posh/select "clubs" (these places are unworthy for the term club or discotheques imo). |
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| IntegraR0064 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Zombie0915
Why do you think it happens this way? Anyone know of places in the USA that get decent trancy music where my complaints don't apply(preferably near employers in the computer industry)?
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Actually, Philly is pretty good. I mean...don't get me wrong, there are plenty of non-EDM clubs that are very much like what you're describing. And even some EDM ones. But, once you find the right venues to go to, *most* people are really cool. Of course, depending on the specific event, there are the people who are there to be pretty, or to "get chicks", or to be cool or whatever, but I think they're in the minority. At least they don't interfere with me and my friends getting all crazy. And it seems like the majority of the club is there for the music, as opposed to the lifestyle.
Denver was good as well actually when I lived CO. Same sort of thing there.
As to places that aren't as good that I've lived, there's Detroit (although detroit can be good depending on teh event), New York, and DC.
Just my .02. |
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| ivanbee |
| lee hotti is a clubber |
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| trewqy |
if u go to a club.its called clubbing.
DUDE u need to go out and ask some really meaningful questions.I MEAN SRSLY. WHO THE HELL GIVES A ABOUT WHETHER UR A CLUBBER OR NOT>!!
Now i spend my weekends playing golf.Its kinda sad. |
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| Zombie0915 |
Denver and Philly, hmmmm
Driving to Penn. is actually a pretty pleseant trip from where I am(about 7 hours, lotsa hills and nature to drive through), I just never went there for a party because I don't know my way around the place and don't have any friends there. You seem to have the same opinion as I do about DC. I hear Denver is quite similar(weather, cost of living, population etc.) in many ways to the place that I am living in right now, that may be an option if I ever find myself in that area.
I'm glad at least one person in the USA is finding parties where these trendy types are outnumbered. I get alot of people who tell me that "if you're there for the music then the crowd and the club's policies shoudn't matter". So I guess I am not there for the music, but rather I am there to act crazy in presence of music. I don't really love this music enough to put up with the rules and required conduct of these trendy type clubs, if I can't get away with acting like myself then I don't have nearly as much fun.
To me it isn't worth putting on a collared shirt and dress shoes, driving (+-)6 hours to a big city, waiting 3 hours in a line(sometimes outside in the cold/rain), paying 25 dollars entry, getting inside only to find there isn't enough room to dance, paying 8 dollars for a friggin bottle of water, and on top of all that feeling like an outcast because the whole party is full of strangers and nobody will act friendly to me because of the way I am looking/dancing. I just hate doing all that traveling, preparation and spending only to arrive at a party and feel unwelcome.
I imagine if a person lives in a big city they don't have to deal with the traveling, and the spending probably isn't a big deal either because their increased wages cancel out the increased prices, perhaps I would have better luck if I just moved to a more populated area, all the best dance music seems to happen in densely populated cities(which sux because I enjoy the feeling of going home and being able to get away from all the people). The only clubs that I can reach without long road trips are the trendy clubs.
Maybe I should just give up on trying to find parties until I live closer to them, maybe I should just find some music to enjoy that actually exists in this region, or perhaps I should just be satisfied that I can enjoy this music in cyberspace without having to go anywhere, but it just isn't the same! |
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| Light The Fuse |
| someone who kills baby seals |
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| IntegraR0064 |
Well, it is still expensive here. Actually...it's not too bad, especially compared to DC or NYC. One of the main places I go to is Lounge One14...it's a pretty sweet place. Typically we've been getting some pretty big names there, and teh covers are cheap (9 times out of 10 it's $5 cover for an international DJ on the top floor plus two other floors with DJs on each.) But, where they get the money is the drinks. Bottled beers are typically $5 or $6...Water is $6 or $7, but they have to make money somewhere.
I also can't stand the whole "Dress to party" or "dress to impress" or whatever they call it nowadays...but that's not something that shows itself at the clubs that I go to more than once voluntarily.
But you're right, the biggest part of your problem I think is the fact that you live so far from a place with good clubs. If I had to drive 6 hours every time....I probably wouldn't do it more than once every few months or something. And doing that...you don't really meet people, etc. You also don't get to go to different clubs...since they are different. For example in DC, there are a lot of the ones that you have to be dressed up to get in...but then there's Nation, which you definitely don't. Come to think of it, Nation isn't a bad place to go...it's very different in feel than most of the DC clubs.
And you don't have to live "in" the city. Depending on the city, you can be very close by and still be in the "middle of nowhere", so to speak. Denver is a good example. Philly isn't too bad...you can easily be 45 minutes to an hour from the clubs and be out of the city culture.
Enough of my rambling, I hope that made sense |
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| Zombie0915 |
yeah, I could always live in the outskirts, 1 hour of driving isn't nearly as brutal as 6. I've been to nation before, parhaps when I go I am showing up for their worse nights. Last time I was there I got sick because it was cold and rainy and they made us wait outside for a long time, then we were packed inside the place too tightly to move so naturally the place was a huge germy mess. I still had to pay through the nose at that place, but I agree they weren't so image concious there.
Maybe I should show up when it isn't Tiesto or Sasha or something, those people get that club way too packed to even move around, and the parking is like a war zone with bums hanging around trying to get you to pay them ten dollars to park in front of a "no parking" sign, yikes. When I was there last couple times the line wrapped around the building and down the street, I had bought tickets beforehand but still I had to wait in this huge line and coudln't get inside until the headliner had already started playing. Nation bothers me because it's huge chaos everywhere, way too many people, nowhere to park, and it's in a kinda sketchy area. I go there and I feel like I might wander into some trouble if I get too disoriented. The chaos is strangely attractive though, I get a bit of an adrenaline rush and a feeling of adventure when I go to nation, but I've never really had a good experience at the parties there, mainly because it gets too tightly packed to move and it gets pretty gross in there.. |
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