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Iraq: US Agents disguised in Arab dress tried to blow up car (pg. 3)
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| Purple |
| quote: | Originally posted by Purple
US cannot bomb civilian areas, for fear of protests from Iraqi side.
So suppose if a 'terrorist' is know to be hiding and getting support from someone in that building, US woudnt want to bomb the whole place from a chopper (which will definately have childrens and women in the casualties list) and attract international media wrath on them.
So instead they send someone disguised as an Iraqi with bombs, he goes bombs the place killing everyone, including 'terrorists', but in the end it looks like a terrorist attack and US is saved from media and local people's wrath.
The blame for casualities is shifted and job is done. |
I just want to add one more thing:
I dont know why you fellow Americans and some immigrant Americans (read Lepanto) are finding it so hard to beleive it. US has done it in past in Somalia and Sudan, and its a common war practise.
But what is shameful about this incident is that, usually the combating forces resort to such tactics only when there is an active war playing out on the feilds. And not when the war is 'won' and the forces are in the country only to act as a peace keeping force. It only reflects the desperatness of the situation and the lows to which the Bush govt can stoop to. |
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| Lepanto |
Why are you still call me an immigrant? I guess reading is not your strong point.
Anyway, because there's no PROOF. Like others've said, when there's proof it'll be a different story. And I know it's a common military practice, you should be proud that you've figured it out. |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by Purple
I just want to add one more thing:
I dont know why you fellow Americans and some immigrant Americans (read Lepanto) are finding it so hard to beleive it. US has done it in past in Somalia and Sudan, and its a common war practise.
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yeah, i get all that. but, without proof beyond that wonderful internet site... ;)
it just seems such a massive risk to me. the situation sounds so delicate over there that no one knows what single occurence might be the catalyst for rampant civil war. i reckon there are easier and more clandestine ways they would be able to approach these problems. |
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| Purple |
| Its kindda sad how you guys are 'now' asking for proof, and how you guys never asked for any proof when Bush sold his phoney war on Iraq based on 'WMD' to you guys.. Where was/is the proof for WMDs? |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by Purple
how you guys never asked for any proof when Bush sold his phoney war on Iraq based on 'WMD' to you guys.. |
and upon what do you base that opinion einstein? |
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| Purple |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
and upon what do you base that opinion einstein? |
So you are saying you asked for proof, right.
And did you got any? Remember before war UN Inspectors said there were no WMDs in Iraq, and they said it lound and clear.
But still after that too, on what basis did US went on war with Iraq at first place? Do you think private US CIA inspectors do better job than UN Inspectors? |
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| trancaholic |
| quote: | Originally posted by Purple
So you are saying you asked for proof, right.
And did you got any? Remember before war UN Inspectors said there were no WMDs in Iraq, and they said it lound and clear.
But still after that too, on what basis did US went on war with Iraq at first place? Do you think private US CIA inspectors do better job than UN Inspectors? |
Maybe - just maybe - he meant to ask you on what basis you infered that we all believed Dubya when he said there was WMDs in Iraq. |
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| Lepanto |
| Clearly the American public opinion was the deciding factor when we "invaded" Iraq :rolleyes: :haha: |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by trancaholic
Maybe - just maybe - he meant to ask you on what basis you infered that we all believed Dubya when he said there was WMDs in Iraq. |
*sighs* thankyou! sometimes i just dont have the patience to explain myself to the likes of purple ;)
| quote: | Originally posted by Purple
But still after that too, on what basis did US went on war with Iraq at first place? |
this has nothing to do with the discussion at hand. the iraq WMD etc debate has been done to death so go resurrect an old thread if thats what you want to argue about.
| quote: | Originally posted by Purple
Do you think private US CIA inspectors do better job than UN Inspectors? |
it is entirely possible that an intelligence organisation could uncover information not readily provided to UN inspectors. it would be naive to assume otherwise. note that this does not necessarily mean this was the case in this instance. |
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| ogvh5150 |
Been there, done that:
| quote: | Originally posted by ogvh5150 Sept. 20, 2005
Two British servicemen have been arrested in Iraq amid reports that they fired on police in Basra, the Ministry of Defence confirmed today.
They were detained by police in the southern city earlier today following reports of a skirmish.
Local authorities in the city said the men had been held after firing on police.
A senior Iraqi official claimed he had been informed by the British military that the men were soldiers working covertly in civilian clothes.
The Ministry of Defence refused to comment on reports that the men were working undercover and said it is not yet known exactly why they have been held.
A spokesman said: “We can confirm that two military personnel were detained by Iraqi authorities earlier today.”
British servicemen held over Iraq 'shooting'
The tools of the trade:
A grab from footage released on September 20, 2005 shows weapons which Iraqi police said were confiscated from two undercover British soldiers after their arrest in Basra, southern Iraq, September 19, 2005. (Al-Iraqiya via Reuters television/Reuters)
pics of equipment the two undercover guys were carrying
Spooks doin' what spooks do best.
Can you say false flag? |
C.I.A. Cleaners, Inc.
When only the best will do
Links dead. Changed the first articles' link to another page. |
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| Q5echo |
i like the rest of that story. it makes more conviluted and interesting.
| quote: | It is understood the arrests followed a clash between British soldiers and protesters in which two tanks were set ablaze.
Witnesses said demonstrators hurled stones at British tanks and the troops responded by firing warning shots.
The tanks were then set on fire and soldiers are understood to have jumped out of the blazing vehicles and withdrawn from the scene without returning fire. It is not yet known if the arrests are connected to the incidents and it has not been established if anyone was injured. |
i've heard of a tactic used by American soldiers with decent success called, informally, the AK-monkey-pump-smackdown. it involves staging a fake IED or car-bomb strike on a dummy target at a "known target rich environment" then wait for the insurgents to come dancing around "monkey-pumping" their AK-47's in the air, then clean shop. there are different variations on that theme. one involing the baiting of snipers.
i don't pretend to be an expert, but i do know that guerrilla warfare can be very complicated and, by nature, blurs the lines battle. |
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| skot_e |
| I have often considered the possibility the CIA or similar are responsible for some of these explosions. It would be so easy to set up. |
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