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V for Vendetta (pg. 3)
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| [MaRt] |
I saw it last night and really enjoyed it, even the overly articulate dialogue that mostly went right over my head. I was surprised to find out today that V was played by Hugo Weaving, a.k.a. Agent Smith in The Matrix films. Who would've guessed (unless you stayed for the credits)?
I reckon it will stand up really well to repeat viewings. |
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| RapidFire |
| quote: | Originally posted by deprivation
Pretty good movie except the movie tried too hard to criticize the current government. I wonder how this movie will stand the test of time. Is it me or was the character that V killed that had his own commentary show supposed to be Bill O'Reilly? Ending seemed a little unbelievable to me. Thought the acting was good and the V character was interesting. |
you do realize the graphic novel was written in the 80s?? theres no propaganda in this movie... |
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| Erotic Buddha |
| quote: | Originally posted by RapidFire
theres no propaganda in this movie... |
is that a ing joke? the comic book may have been made in the 80s...but this movie obviously tried to relate everything to the current war on terrorism
let's see...the oppressive british government which happens to be catholic oppresses every other form of religion including islam, which that talk show guy states how beautiful the Koran and islam is as opposed to the evilness of christianity
what else? oh yeah...the british government blames AMERICA and its WAR on the current problems in britain and why england has become such a hole in the movie
don't even bother mentioning the catholic priest who obviously also happens to be a serial child molestor (like we haven't heard that before)
i can go on and on...like i said the action and special effects were great but anyone watching this movie and thinking that this isn't just like any other hollywood liberal propaganda movie is delusional |
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| SPACEMASTERS |
| quote: | Originally posted by [MaRt]
I was surprised to find out today that V was played by Hugo Weaving, a.k.a. Agent Smith in The Matrix films. Who would've guessed (unless you stayed for the credits)? |
:haha:
Bu isnt the movie directed by the same people as the matrix. |
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| Driguez |
| i really liked it,def not what i expected ... V is a very interesting character |
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| Lepanto |
| i saw it last night very early in the morning and it was beyond all my expectations. very enjoyable movie indeed! |
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| adi26 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Spirit5
I might be seeing this movie tomorrow, so i'll let you know. But it looks awesome and Natalie Portman is my favorite actress. She looks hot even if she is bald! But her new hair do is :D |
It was a good movie, definitely a mind but I thought the love part of it was a waste of time... |
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| NeoPhono |
| quote: | Originally posted by adi26
It was a good movie, definitely a mind but I thought the love part of it was a waste of time... |
Yeah, that part was new, as in not in the graphic novel. That was just some Hollywood cheese thrown in.
As far as the "O'Reilly" guy, in the comic, it was a radio announcer called the "voice of fate," not a TV dude.
As I said before though, I do think the movie tried to make it way more about the "here and now," and much less about the deeper meaning behind the original story. Still a good movie though. It's just the comic was better...as always. |
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| juzfugen |
| quote: | Originally posted by Erotic Buddha
is that a ing joke? the comic book may have been made in the 80s...but this movie obviously tried to relate everything to the current war on terrorism
let's see...the oppressive british government which happens to be catholic oppresses every other form of religion including islam, which that talk show guy states how beautiful the Koran and islam is as opposed to the evilness of christianity
what else? oh yeah...the british government blames AMERICA and its WAR on the current problems in britain and why england has become such a hole in the movie
don't even bother mentioning the catholic priest who obviously also happens to be a serial child molestor (like we haven't heard that before)
i can go on and on...like i said the action and special effects were great but anyone watching this movie and thinking that this isn't just like any other hollywood liberal propaganda movie is delusional |
Thats the exact same story from the graphic novel which was written 20+ years ago... |
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| NeoPhono |
| quote: | Originally posted by juzfugen
Thats the exact same story from the graphic novel which was written 20+ years ago... |
The thing is, it wasn't presented in a way that so closely resembled current events. The comic was timeless in that it was a post-war, totalitarian government. There was nothing about terrorists starting things or the "USA's war." I could summarize the whole novel, but I'll just post a quote from wikipedia that will do the same.
| quote: | The series is set in an alternative-future Britain where nuclear weapons have been removed from the country following a victory for Labour in 1983, sparing it from nuclear attack in a limited nuclear war that left the country mostly physically intact. An extreme fascist single-party state has arisen, called Norsefire, that maintains control of the country through food shortages (arising during the nuclear winter), government-controlled media, secret police, a planned economy, and concentration camps for racial and sexual minorities. There is an emphasis on technology, especially closed-circuit television monitoring in the mode of George Orwell's 1984. [Closed-circuit television had not yet become common in the UK at the time Moore wrote the series. Today, London has the world's highest concentration of CCTV.] When the series begins, political conflict has ended, the death camps have finished their work and have been closed, and the public is largely complacent, until "V" — an anarchist terrorist dressed as Guy Fawkes, mask and all, with an improbable array of abilities and resources — begins an elaborate, violent, and theatrical campaign to bring down the government.
V himself is something of an enigma, whose history is only hinted at; it is strongly suggested that he is physically and mentally abnormal. The bulk of the story is told from the viewpoints of other characters: V's admirer and apprentice Evey, a sixteen-year-old match factory worker; Eric Finch, a world-weary and pragmatic policeman who is hunting V; and several contenders for power within the fascist party. V's destructive acts are morally ambiguous, and a central theme of the series is the rationalisation of atrocities in the name of a higher goal, whether it is stability or freedom. The character is a mixture of an actual advocate of anarchism and the traditional stereotype of the anarchist as a terrorist and advocate of anarchy in the sense of chaos.
Moore stated in an interview:
...the central question is, is this guy right? Or is he mad? What do you, the reader, think about this? Which struck me as a properly anarchist solution. I didn't want to tell people what to think, I just wanted to tell people to think, and consider some of these admittedly extreme little elements, which nevertheless do recur fairly regularly throughout human history. [1]
There are many references to the letter V and number 5 (which is V in Roman numerals). For example, the character V is seen reading and quoting from Thomas Pynchon's novel, V. and listening to Beethoven's fifth symphony (the first four notes can be represented as the letter V in Morse code.) V always introduces himself with a five-syllable phrase: "You can call me V." The phrase "Remember, remember, the fifth of November" is also referenced; it is the first line of a nursery rhyme detailing the exploits of Guy Fawkes. The name of every chapter begins with the letter V. Another link to that letter comes from his past as the "Prisoner of Room Five", as later revealed in the series.
The series was Moore's first use of the densely detailed narrative and multiple plot lines that would feature heavily in Watchmen. Panel backgrounds are often crammed with clues and red herrings; literary allusions and wordplay are prominent in the chapter titles and in V's speech (which almost always takes the form of iambic pentameter, a poetic meter reliant on five stressed syllables per line).
The structure of the book has several direct parallels with Gaston Leroux's Phantom of the Opera: the Shadow Gallery doubles for the Phantom's Lair, and Evey's abduction and re-education mirrors that of Christine Daae's. |
It was about overthrowing the government to live in a state of eutopian anarchy, not necessarily a terrorist overthrowing a government.
For more...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V_for_Vendetta |
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| mndeg |
| Vendetta, conservatives hate it! |
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| Lepanto |
| quote: | Originally posted by mndeg
Vendetta, conservatives hate it! |
not really. |
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