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The tune that started the rot... (pg. 8)
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| Lyle |
| quote: | Originally posted by PersianMafia
these forums are turning into elitist propaganda and are probably turning away more neutral skeptics from trance, rather than attracting them.
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That's a good point, dude. I guess we could lighten up a little, but reminiscing on the good old days, does make you a little bitter! |
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| Mr.Mystery |
| quote: | Originally posted by RapidFire
uhuh. you do realize the melody was lifted from Depeche Mode - Enjoy The Silence? the song is nothing special. its a solid tune but most definetly not the pinnacle of trance. |
...and it's not even trance, it's breaks. |
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| JakeC |
| quote: | Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
...and it's not even trance, it's breaks. |
Its not breaks.
Its just one of the many Trance tracks that use a breakbeat in place of a four to the floor kick.
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| a98 |
basicly back in 99-00 the majority listened to more mainstream sort of trance like system f, rank 1, fire&ice and all the rest of the supersaw trance. and now that most of the people's taste has gone forward and they want more complex and sophisticated things from trance. so the sound that is popular atm is something that people who are still in the supersaw-stage don't get (it's too proggy or too electorish or too house).
basicly supersaw-stage people want simple songs with 4 sounds and a huge breakdown and anthem like melody..
sure there were some really good sophisticated trance in 99 too, sasha, bt, brothers in rhythm, salt tank, sander kleinenberg, sunday club etc..
anyway the point is if you don't like the sound of today's trance it's probably not because trance has gone worse, but because your taste of music is something else.
today's trance is far from cheesy compared to what all those happy happy joy supersaw tracks were in 99-00. sure there is a load of crap today and it might seem that it's all there is. but trance is more popular today and there are more and more producers, which instantly leads to more and more weak tunes.
but basicly there were A LOT of in 99-00 years too, but since the internet wasn't what it is nowadays and there weren't that many deejays, most stuff you hear is basicly good stuff, but back in those days labels even released those lame ty songs on vinyl. |
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| dittoalex |
Energy 52 - Café del Mar
Am I elitist yet? |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by dittoalex
Energy 52 - Café del Mar
Am I elitist yet? |
Yes. You must be some sort of uber-elitist to think the rot started in 1993. That's hardcore elitism right there. |
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| Sykonee |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Yes. You must be some sort of uber-elitist to think the rot started in 1993. That's hardcore elitism right there. |
Haha! Even the Discogs denizens will throw trance a bone up to '94. ;) |
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| kr00t0n |
| quote: | Originally posted by JakeC
Its not breaks.
Its just one of the many Trance tracks that use a breakbeat in place of a four to the floor kick.
:) |
The kickdrum pattern is what defines breakbeat and it's subgenres... |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by kr00t0n
The kickdrum pattern is what defines breakbeat and it's subgenres... |
Breaks is the test genre ever. It is not defined by just having a breakbeat. So many tracks which are just trance or prog house with a breakbeat get marched off to join this mythical Breaks genre. |
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| Mr.Mystery |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Breaks is the test genre ever. It is not defined by just having a breakbeat. |
Yes it is. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
Yes it is. |
We've already had this discussion. If that is true, The Prodigy, Pendulum, the Future Sound of London, Orbital, BT, Praga Khan and a million others are all just Breaks. It's bollocks. There's not a genre called Four on the Floor, encompassing every other dance genre out there.
Breaks is , umbrella catch-all for any tune with a breakbeat. Never mind what actual style they are- just name them after the most obvious feature. , non-genre. Banish the term. |
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| Mr.Mystery |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
We've already had this discussion. If that is true, The Prodigy, Pendulum, the Future Sound of London, Orbital, BT, Praga Khan and a million others are all just Breaks. It's bollocks. There's not a genre called Four on the Floor, encompassing every other dance genre out there.
Breaks is , umbrella catch-all for any tune with a breakbeat. Never mind what actual style they are- just name them after the most obvious feature. , non-genre. Banish the term. |
Yes, we already had this discussion and I thought I made myself pretty clear back then already.
Breaks is the "main" genre for these - no track is just breaks alone, it usually gets some other word attached to it. This particular track is on the trancey side of breakbeat.
I'm going to ignore your ridiculous generalisation of the artists you mentioned there altogether.
Breakbeat is a genre. Just because you disagree (surprise surprise) with it doesn't make it any less true. |
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