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| hardcore trancer |
| quote: | Originally posted by tiesto14
Well, Rome wasn't built in a day. Things take time. It will, eventually, work out and be a country that will flourish...but right now it is a hard place. |
Right,you think your people will just sit and watch their troops get blown up day after day for the next 10 years?I highly doubt that.
Dont forget whos money being wasted on this war it is your money and dont forget who is paying the price of this war,the blood of the Iraqi people.
| quote: | | How many years did it take for America to become a civil place during the Revolutionary war? It doesnt happen over night. |
ok but you have to understand that democracy wont always work all the time on some countries and most importantly it cant be forcerd.
Iraq has been ruled under dictatorship for many years and thats why they have survived for this long.Funny thing is Bush thought this was going to be piece of cake and I doubt he relized how ed he really is. |
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| tiesto14 |
| quote: | Originally posted by hardcore trancer
Right,you think your people will just sit and watch their troops get blown up day after day for the next 10 years?I highly doubt that.
Dont forget whos money being wasted on this war it is your money and dont forget who is paying the price of this war,the blood of the Iraqi people. |
Granted many troops have died....but not nearly as many as most wars. There are sacrifices when one goes to war...be it money or life but when the outcome can be far greater in the end the needs of the majority out-weigh the needs of the few.
| quote: | Originally posted by hardcore trancer
ok but you have to understand that democracy wont always work all the time on some countries and most importantly it cant be forcerd. |
It works 90% of the time though...and seeing where Iraqis came from it is worth the effort. And 10,20 or 30 years from now the country will be better off when the PEOPLE have a say...a say that they wont be tortured or condemned for.
| quote: | Originally posted by hardcore trancer
Iraq has been ruled under dictatorship for many years and thats why they have survived for this long. |
They survived this long out of fear not out of love of their country...big difference. Seems like you are saying they should of stayed under Hussein's rule simply because it was what they are used to...never minding the fact they lived in a horrid state.
| quote: | Originally posted by hardcore trancer
Funny thing is Bush thought this was going to be piece of cake and I doubt he relized how ed he really is. |
I agree they underestimated the war not realizing that terrorists would come in and do their nasty deeds...but overall the war was a success...they took over the country quite easily...but like is aid the terrorists are the ones who are causing the problems...not the Iraqi citizens revolting. Again a big difference. |
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| Dopey |
im not gona get into a prolonged argument so here are my 2c
| quote: | | and dont forget who is paying the price of this war,the blood of the Iraqi people. |
so the coalition hasn't lost any souls?
| quote: | | democracy wont always work all the time on some countries and most importantly it cant be forcerd. |
lol @ grammar
can't be forced? really? let me tell u something, kid, every government in the world is forced. the very principle of government is that it is forced upon the people it governs. otherwise it wouldn't be a government. how can you govern if the people don't adhere to your rules? granted it is not perfect, and positive change takes time, democracy is the far lesser of many evils. so unless you admit that your ideal government is utopian, why dont u just shut the fuk up already with the anti everything western, its fuking old. |
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| hardcore trancer |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dopey
im not gona get into a prolonged argument so here are my 2c
so the coalition hasn't lost any souls?
lol @ grammar
can't be forced? really? let me tell u something, kid, every government in the world is forced. the very principle of government is that it is forced upon the people it governs. otherwise it wouldn't be a government. how can you govern if the people don't adhere to your rules? granted it is not perfect, and positive change takes time, democracy is the far lesser of many evils. so unless you admit that your ideal government is utopian, why dont u just shut the fuk up already with the anti everything western, its fuking old. |
Fact is the west is losing the war and their asses is getting blown up everyday!!!
Go Iraqis Go!!!! |
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| tiesto14 |
| quote: | Originally posted by hardcore trancer
Fact is the west is losing the war and their asses is getting blown up everyday!!!
Go Iraqis Go!!!! |
Intelligent responce.:rolleyes: |
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| Renegade |
| FOR GOD'S SAKE, LET THIS THREAD DIE. |
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| metalgearsolid |
| Look if you do some critical thinking you would see that GWB has been one of the greatest presidents ever. He has stood strong when we were attacked and his actions for war were that of a good leader. He didn't ONLY go after the terrorists he went after a whole country that was completly innocent of harbouring any terrorists or having any WMDs. Also he wanted to privatise SS which would make rich people even richer. Don't you think that is good? |
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| Lepanto |
| quote: | Originally posted by metalgearsolid
Look if you do some critical thinking you would see that GWB has been one of the greatest presidents ever. He has stood strong when we were attacked and his actions for war were that of a good leader. He didn't ONLY go after the terrorists he went after a whole country that was completly innocent of harbouring any terrorists or having any WMDs. Also he wanted to privatise SS which would make rich people even richer. Don't you think that is good? |
i was laughing untill i realized you were being seroius. |
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| metalgearsolid |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lepanto
i was laughing untill i realized you were being seroius. |
On my continuation of how GWB is one of the greatest presidents ever. He has increased the debt by trillions in the name of keeping the economy growing and our self reliance growing on foreign nations. He also got away with ILLEGAL wiretaps because he is so freaking powerful all politicians just shiat their pants when it comes to opposing him and his administration. Go against him you go against FOX and that is not possible to do. He has also giving us some great moments on the Daily show with all his mumbling and ya.
LEpanto you took me off myspace? |
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| Dopey |
| quote: | Originally posted by hardcore trancer
Fact is the west is losing the war and their asses is getting blown up everyday!!!
Go Iraqis Go!!!! |
since you're not replying to my points and are just making random idiotic comments, i'll assume you completely agree with me. :)
and iraqis arent only blowing americans up, they are blowing eachother up at a much higher rate. so by u saying "go iraqis," in regards to violence, i guess you are suporting a civil conflict. smart :rolleyes: |
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| tranceNlife |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dopey
can't be forced? really? let me tell u something, kid, every government in the world is forced. the very principle of government is that it is forced upon the people it governs. otherwise it wouldn't be a government. how can you govern if the people don't adhere to your rules? granted it is not perfect, and positive change takes time, democracy is the far lesser of many evils. so unless you admit that your ideal government is utopian, why dont u just shut the fuk up already with the anti everything western, its fuking old. |
Yes, you are right, I completely agree with you; the government is forced; but not the system behind that governance. |
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| tranceNlife |
| quote: | Originally posted by KeSs
Will go down as the worst president in US history. Thats all, just giving everyone the heads up. |
I think some average US citizen will shoot him before that happens.
I liked this thread of yours much more:
http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=321913
Your point was proved after the very first post in your thread. lol |
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